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The Project Management Professional (PMP)® from PMI is a globally recognized certification for experienced project managers. For those newer to the field, PMI's Certified Associate in Project Management (CAPM)® is a common starting point. Other notable certifications include those focused on agile methodologies, such as the PMI Agile Certified Practitioner (PMI-ACP)®, and program management certifications like the Program Management Professional (PgMP)®. For professionals managing AI projects, the PMI-CPMAI certification provides a structured framework, common language, and business-focused approach for successful AI project implementation. #### How does PMI support career growth for professionals? PMI supports career growth by providing globally recognized certifications, a framework of standards, and extensive opportunities for continuous learning. Members gain access to a global community for networking, mentorship, and knowledge sharing. The organization also produces research and thought leadership on emerging trends, helping professionals stay current with skills in areas like AI, agile practices, and strategic business management. These resources are designed to help professionals at all levels enhance their skills and advance their careers. #### What is the PMBOK® Guide? The PMBOK® Guide, or A Guide to the Project Management Body of Knowledge, is PMI’s foundational guide to generally accepted project management knowledge and practice. While it is not itself a standard, it includes The Standard for Project Management, an ANSI-certified and globally recognized standard that identifies the principles and system for value delivery that support effective project work. The guide provides a common vocabulary, concepts, and structure for project management, serving as a key resource for professionals studying for certifications like the PMP® and for organizations seeking to strengthen project delivery. #### How is AI changing project management? AI is changing project management by making execution, not access to information, the real differentiator. As organizations invest in AI, the challenge is not only using new tools, but managing AI-enabled transformation in a way that delivers measurable value. Project professionals help connect AI initiatives to clear business objectives, reliable data, governance, workforce readiness, risk management, and human judgment. 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Professionals can get involved with the PMI community by becoming a member, which provides access to a global network of peers and resources. Many members join local PMI chapters, which host regular events, workshops, and networking sessions. Online, PMI's projectmanagement.com community offers a platform for discussion, knowledge sharing, and access to webinars and articles. Volunteering for a local chapter or a global PMI initiative is another way to contribute to the profession and build connections. #### What is the difference between PMP and CAPM? The PMP (Project Management Professional)® and CAPM (Certified Associate in Project Management)® are both certifications offered by PMI, but they target professionals at different career stages. The CAPM is an entry-level certification designed for individuals with little or no project experience, validating their understanding of fundamental project management knowledge and terminology. The PMP is for experienced project managers and requires a combination of formal education and years of documented project leadership experience, making it a more advanced and globally recognized certification. #### How does PMI support social impact? PMI supports social impact by helping individuals, nonprofits, NGOs, and communities use project management to turn purpose into measurable outcomes. Through the PMI Educational Foundation, PMI expands access to project management education for youth worldwide, including underserved and underrepresented populations. Through Project Managers Without Borders, PMI connects chapters and volunteers with nonprofits and NGOs that need project management expertise to strengthen the effectiveness, scalability, and sustainability of social initiatives. 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Got! The power!” The mostly female audience stands, claps and sways to the pumping R.-and-B. music while the broadly smiling woman onstage repeats her refrain, then breaks into a sermonette. “Have you ever forgotten that you have the power?” she exhorts. They cheer. “How many women here over 40?” Big cheer. “You know, we can’t do it with our bodies anymore. We got to slip into our brains, right? That’s when we have to remember, ‘I got the power! I can make them think that I’m a size 5!'” Bi-i-ig cheer. It’s not a gospel revival but a midtown-Manhattan talk-show taping. But it would not be surprising if Iyanla Vanzant were uttering a silent prayer as she warms up the crowd before recording the third-ever episode of Iyanla. At 47, she has risen from a traumatic early life–poverty, rape, a teenage pregnancy, a stretch on welfare, beatings by the relatives who raised her and later by her husband. She left her abusive spouse, put herself through college, became a lawyer, then a self-help/spiritual guru, motivational speaker, best-selling author and perennial Oprah visitor. Now, with her own syndicated show launching Aug. 13, Vanzant is hoping the same life story, empathy and straight-talking humor that made her the quintessential talk-show guest can make her the quintessential talk-show host. The catch: Vanzant wants to do a show about ordinary people with ordinary problems that don’t involve having their in-laws’ babies. She’s not alone. On Sept. 10, MTV VJ and former BET host Ananda Lewis wants to bring back Phil Donahue-style social issues on her own syndicated talk show. (Both shows will air in most U.S. markets.) But Iyanla (ee-yon-la) and Ananda (an-on-da; wait till David Letterman gets them in the same room) face the common belief that only one mononym can get away with nonsensationalistic talk. “There’s Oprah \[Winfrey\], and there’s everybody else,” says Bill Geddie, who along with TV veteran Barbara Walters is the executive producer of Vanzant’s show. “Oprah does the interesting, reasonable people that could be you or me. And everybody else does screaming people.” Says Walters, who persuaded Vanzant to try a talk show after seeing her on Oprah and inviting her on The View: “How many times have I seen, ‘It’s not my baby!’ ‘Yes it is!’?” But Jerry Springer et al. are thriving, while nearly everyone who has promised an alternative approach to sailor-mouthed moms and their accused babydaddies has failed or gone over to the dark side. Vanzant does follow the Oprah recipe: a la carte spirituality, advice and above all, confession. It is an understatement to say that Vanzant does not shy away from talking about her difficult early life. And as Oprah has taught us, if not with quite so abject a life story, such been-there testimony is essential to bonding with the talk audience (primarily women 18 to 49). “My life is who I am; it’s where I come from,” says Vanzant. “I don’t know what I’d be doing had I not been born in a taxicab or neglected and abused as a child or a teenage mother. And,” she adds without irony, “thank goodness I don’t have to figure that out!” Vanzant positions herself as a counselor and an experienced girlfriend. While some of her topics could be tweaked into scream TV–like one she taped a few weeks ago about talking to your troubled teen–she eases her guests through moments when other hosts would prod a sore spot: “You ask \[your daughter\] a question,” she tells a mom whose 13-year-old has been sneaking out. “She gives you an honest answer. You can’t freak out at that moment.” (One segment of the episode, in fact, is titled “How to Talk Without Screaming.”) In the early 1990s Vanzant found a following among African Americans with books like Acts of Faith: Daily Meditations for People of Color. After 11 books with 8 million copies in print, “her message became more universal,” says Trish Todd, her editor at Simon & Schuster, but her core audience has stayed with her. At the taping, Vanzant asks who has read her books; about half the audience, and most of the black women, raise their hands. Vanzant’s books promote an unabashed, if cafeteria-style, spirituality: her New York Times No. 1 In the Meantime asks readers to ascend to the “attic” of their souls, “where the Christ lives…where Buddha lives…where Krishna, Muktananda and the archangels Michael, Ariel, Uriel and Gabriel live.” She runs the Inner Visions Institute, an organization based in Silver Spring, Md., that sponsors events like the “Wonder Woman Weekend…centered on the One Mind, One Spirit, One Life of the Creator” ($800 for the weekend, not counting lodging). Call it religion or, as Vanzant prefers, “faith,” too much could put off a mass TV audience. She and her producers say her show will tone down the God talk, but she will also have to carry over her fans without alienating them. Lewis, 28, aims to use a different built-in audience to try what she calls an “educational” talk alternative. Talking in the “library” of The Ananda Lewis Show’s set, still under construction, Lewis is intensely earnest–at MTV, she took on sober-minded topics like mental-health awareness and “driving while black,” even though the job also required reporting from the Beach House. Her determined high-mindedness extends to the names of her Chihuahuas, Einstein and Mozart. Despite her VJ (and Pepsi Challenge pitchwoman) resume, she stresses, “This is not an entertainment show.” She might interview some of the artists she hung with on MTV–if, she says, they’re interested in issues or have a story, like childhood abuse, to share. “If it’s just about promoting an album, that’s not what this show is. That’s what I did on MTV.” She wants to bring her MTV audience over, though, and their moms with them. Lewis, says her producer Mary Duffy, intends to be an intergenerational “conduit of information” about hot-button topics like school violence, depression and teen sex–a topic Lewis raised at MTV, in true confessional-host mode, by talking about a temporary vow of celibacy she took. “So many young girls stopped me in the street then and told me they made different choices \[about having sex\],” she recalls. Her big-sisterly image is no guarantee that girls will switch off TRL or that Lewis can draw older women with political topics, as her model Donahue did. There is something touchingly old-fashioned about Lewis’ belief that people will turn on talk TV for its edifying effects; when Donahue ended his show in 1996, it was after a desperate attempt to beat the sleaze slingers at their own game. For Vanzant or Lewis to succeed, it will mean cutting into Oprah’s lane on the high road or proving that viewers, contrary to their recent choices, really are tired of high-decibel escapism. Both are betting that talk, in Vanzant’s phrase, has “got the power” to change lives. Now they have to sell that idea to viewers who’ve got the power to change the channel. –With reporting by Andrea Sachs/New York ```json [{"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","@id":"https://time.com/archive/6664482/television-can-they-de-springerize-talk/","mainEntityOfPage":{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https://time.com/archive/6664482/television-can-they-de-springerize-talk/"},"headline":"Television: Can They De-Springerize Talk?","datePublished":"2001-08-06T04:00:00.000Z","dateModified":"2026-02-27T06:56:07.770Z","description":"These hosts say viewers want a new alternative to screamer shows. 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