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Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky wouldn’t concede the point. A tense Oval Office meeting Friday that was supposed to end in Ukraine agreeing to share mining resources with the U.S. devolved into a heated argument as President Donald Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance insisted Ukraine should express more gratitude for U.S. support and agree to a ceasefire with Russia, even without clear security guarantees from the U.S. “You don’t have the cards right now,” Trump told Zelensky, as the two interrupted each other during a forceful exchange in front of TV cameras. “We’re not playing cards,” Zelensky said. The leader of war-torn Ukraine repeatedly interrupted Trump and insisted that Russian President Vladimir Putin couldn’t be trusted, noting he had already broken ceasefire and prisoner exchange agreements. Zelensky said that if the U.S. walks away from Ukraine, U.S. security would be more at risk from an emboldened Russia. Trump bristled at Zelensky pushing back and his voice became sharper. “You’re gambling with the lives of millions of people. You’re gambling with World War III,” Trump said._  by [Simon Shuster/Kyiv](https://time.com/author/simon-shuster/)  ## Simon Shuster/Kyiv Senior Correspondent Updated: Mar 4, 2025 3:44 PM UTCPublished: Mar 1, 2025 1:59 PM UTC Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky wouldn’t concede the point. A tense Oval Office meeting Friday that was supposed to end in Ukraine agreeing to share mining resources with the U.S. devolved into a heated argument as President Donald Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance insisted Ukraine should express more gratitude for U.S. support and agree to a ceasefire with Russia, even without clear security guarantees from the U.S. “You don’t have the cards right now,” Trump told Zelensky, as the two interrupted each other during a forceful exchange in front of TV cameras. “We’re not playing cards,” Zelensky said. The leader of war-torn Ukraine repeatedly interrupted Trump and insisted that Russian President Vladimir Putin couldn’t be trusted, noting he had already broken ceasefire and prisoner exchange agreements. Zelensky said that if the U.S. walks away from Ukraine, U.S. security would be more at risk from an emboldened Russia. Trump bristled at Zelensky pushing back and his voice became sharper. “You’re gambling with the lives of millions of people. You’re gambling with World War III,” Trump said.  by [Simon Shuster/Kyiv](https://time.com/author/simon-shuster/)  ## Simon Shuster/Kyiv Senior Correspondent Updated: Mar 4, 2025 3:44 PM UTCPublished: Mar 1, 2025 1:59 PM UTC It was evening in Kyiv when the news from the White House arrived. My dinner mate, a colonel in the Ukrainian armed forces, got a call on his phone while raising a toast, and I could hear a muffled voice urging him to watch the footage from the Oval Office. We pulled it up on the colonel’s phone and sat there, slack jawed, the fat coagulating on our plates, as my President and his President went at each other like a pair of feuding in-laws. A long moment passed before my companion rendered his verdict. _Molodets,_ he said of President Volodymyr Zelensky. “Well done.” I had rarely heard the officer praise his commander-in-chief. But he seemed genuinely impressed. “He pushed back," he said of Zelensky. "You have to respect that.” Then he paused again, looking down at the screen, and added: “But now we’re f---ed.” Since the drama erupted on Friday, the reactions in Kyiv have mostly swung between these two emotions: pride in their leader for standing up to the most powerful man in the world, and fear of what the consequences would be for Ukraine, for its military and for its chances of surviving Russia’s invasion, which entered its fourth year last week. Among Zelensky’s aides and allies, no one seemed all that surprised by what he said to President Donald Trump, nor by the tone Zelensky took. In many ways, it was classic Zelensky—proud, stubborn, courageous to the point of recklessness, and rarely capable of bearing an insult in silence. “What else was he supposed to do,” one of Zelensky’s advisers asked me on Friday night. “If somebody is wiping their feet on you, are you just supposed to take it?” As we spoke, the adviser kept his eyes fixed on his social media feed, where every Ukrainian with an internet connection seemed to be venting and interpreting what had happened to their leader. Plenty of them were livid with Zelensky. His clash with Trump threatens to rupture an alliance that has kept Ukraine alive during the war with an [estimated](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crew8y7pwd5o) $183 billion in financial and military aid and critical wartime intelligence that no other ally can replace. With the stakes that high, Zelensky’s political opponents and many independent analysts called Friday’s argument in the Oval Office a diplomatic catastrophe, unprecedented and inexcusable. But those closest to Zelensky knew the outburst had plenty of precedents—except, in the past, they played out behind closed doors. President Joe Biden had similar clashes with Zelensky early in the war. In the summer of 2022, the U.S. agreed to provide a massive package of military aid to Ukraine, including an advanced missile system that Biden withheld for months out of fear of drawing the U.S. deeper into the war. During a phone call to talk about the aid package, which was worth about a billion dollars, Zelensky took barely a minute to thank Biden before he began asking for more assistance. Biden lost his temper in response, chastising the Ukrainian leader for seeming ungrateful. About a year later, Zelensky received a similar dressing down from Ben Wallace, who was then the British Defense Minister. “People want to see gratitude,” Wallace said at a NATO summit in July 2023\. “We’re not Amazon.” The U.K. had delivered so many de-mining vehicles to the Ukrainians, Wallace added, “that I think there’s none left.” After the spat, Wallace received so much blowback for his remarks that he issued an apology to Zelensky. On Friday night, it was Zelensky who faced pressure to apologize to Trump during an interview with Fox News, and he declined to offer one. “No. I respect \[the\] President, and I respect American people,” he said calmly. “I think we have to be very open and very honest, and I’m not sure that we did something bad.” To many Ukrainians, Zelensky was right. In the Oval Office and on Fox News, he spoke with all the conviction and self-respect that his citizens have come to expect from their leader. He has long internalized their collective pain and anger at the Russian invasion, and he has made an art of channeling those emotions as he seeks to win the support of the world. Maybe this time he chose the wrong setting to speak so freely with such a crucial ally. But the main response among my friends in Kyiv was pride in having a leader with such a backbone. “Every time he goes abroad, he carries with him what we feel here,” one of them told me on Friday night. “That’s part of his job. To express those feelings to the world.” ## Transcript [00:00] President. Mr. president, with respect, [00:01] I think it's disrespectful for you to come into [00:03] the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media. [00:06] Right now, you guys are going around and forcing [00:09] conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems. [00:12] You should be thanking the president for trying to bring an end to this conflict. [00:16] Into Ukraine, that you say what problems we have. [00:19] I have been to. I have actually. [00:21] I've actually watched and seen the stories. [00:24] And I know what happens is you bring people, [00:27] you bring them on a propaganda tour. [00:28] Mr. president, do you disagree that you've had [00:31] problems bringing people into your military? [00:34] And do you think that it's respectful to come to [00:36] the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack [00:39] the administration that is trying to trying to prevent the destruction of your country? [00:43] A lot of a lot of questions. [00:45] Let's start from the beginning. [00:46] Sure. First of all, during the war, [00:48] everybody has problems, even you. [00:51] But you have nice ocean and don't feel now, [00:53] but you will feel it in the future. [00:56] God bless. You don't know that. [00:57] God bless you. God bless you. You got a war. [01:00] Don't tell us what we're going to feel. [01:02] We're trying to solve a problem. [01:04] Don't tell us what we're going to feel. [01:05] I'm not telling you because you're in. [01:07] No position to dictate that. Remember what you're doing. [01:09] You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel. [01:14] We're going to feel very good. [01:16] We're going to feel very good and very strong. [01:19] We will feel. [01:19] Influenced. You're right now not in a very good position. [01:22] You've allowed yourself to be in a. [01:24] Very bad. [01:24] Position. And he happens to be right about. [01:26] From the very beginning of the war. You're not in. [01:28] A good position. You don't have the cards right now with us. You start having. [01:33] Cards. Playing cards. [01:34] Right now. You don't know you're playing cards. [01:36] You're playing. [01:37] Cards. You're gambling with the lives of millions of people. [01:40] You're gambling with World War three. [01:43] You're gambling with World War Three. [01:45] And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country. [01:50] This country that's back to you [01:52] far more than a lot of people said they should have. Have you said. [01:56] Thank you once this entire meeting? [01:58] No. In this entire meeting, have you said thank you? [02:00] Today you went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October, [02:04] offer some words of appreciation for the United States of America [02:08] and the president who's trying to save your country. [02:12] Please. You think that if you will speak very loudly about the war. [02:17] He's not speaking loudly. [02:19] He's not speaking loudly. [02:20] Your country is in big trouble. [02:22] Wait a minute. No, no, you've done a lot of talking. [02:24] Your country is in big trouble. [02:26] I know you're not winning. [02:27] I know you're not winning this, I. [02:29] You have a damn good chance of coming out, okay? Because of us. [02:32] Mr. President, we are staying in our country, staying strong. [02:36] From the very beginning of the war, [02:37] we've been alone and we are thankful. [02:39] I said thanks. You haven't been in this cabinet. [02:41] You haven't been in this campaign. [02:43] We gave you through this stupid president, $350 billion. [02:47] We gave you military equipment, [02:49] and your men are brave. [02:51] But they had to use our military. [02:52] What about if you didn't have our military equipment? [02:55] You invited. [02:56] Me. You didn't have our military equipment. [02:58] This war would have been over in two weeks. [03:01] In three days? I heard it from Putin in three days. [03:04] This is something maybe less in two weeks. Of course. [03:07] Yes, it's going to be a very hard thing to do business like this. I tell you, you. [03:10] Say thank you. [03:12] I said a. [03:13] Lot of times. [03:13] That they're. [03:14] Accepted. [03:14] The American people accept that there are disagreements, [03:17] and let's go litigate those disagreements [03:19] rather than trying to fight it out in the American media. [03:22] When you're wrong, we know that you're wrong. [03:24] But you see, I think it's good for the American people to see what's going on over here. [03:28] I think it's very important. That's why I kept this going so long. [03:31] You have to be thankful you don't have the cards. [03:34] You're buried there. [03:36] Your people are dying. [03:38] I tell you, you're running low on soldiers. [03:40] Listen, don't say you're. [03:41] Running low on soldiers. [03:42] It would be a damn good thing. And then you. [03:44] Then you tell us. I don't want a cease fire. [03:47] I don't want a cease fire. I want to go. [03:49] And I wanted this. Look, if you could get a cease fire right now, [03:53] I tell you, you take it. [03:54] So the bullets stop flying and your men stop getting killed. [03:57] Of course we want to stop the war. [03:59] But you're saying you don't want a cease fire? [04:00] I said to you, I want a cease fire. [04:02] Guaranteed. Because you'll get a cease fire faster than an agreement. [04:05] Ask our people about ceasefire. What they think. [04:08] There wasn't with me for you. [04:09] What? [04:09] That wasn't with me. [04:11] That was with a guy named Biden who was not a smart person. [04:15] That was. That was with. [04:16] Obama. It was your president. [04:18] Excuse me? That was with Obama. [04:19] Who gave you sheets and I gave you javelins. [04:22] Yes. I gave you the javelins to take out all those tanks. [04:25] Obama gave you sheets. [04:27] In fact, the statement is Obama gave sheets and Trump gave javelins. [04:33] You got to be more thankful because let me tell you, [04:36] you don't have the cards with us. [04:38] You have the cards, [04:40] but without us, you don't have any cards. One more question. [04:43] She's asking, what if Russia breaks the cease fire? [04:46] What if they. What, if anything? [04:47] What if a bomb drops on your head right now? [04:50] Okay, what if they broke it? [04:53] I don't know, they broke it with Biden because Biden, they didn't respect him. [04:56] They didn't respect Obama. [04:58] They respect me. Let me tell you, [05:01] Putin went through a hell of a lot with me. [05:03] He went through a phony witch hunt where they used him. [05:06] And Russia. [05:07] Russia. Russia. Russia. You ever hear of that deal? [05:09] That was a phony. That was a phony. [05:11] Hunter Biden, Joe Biden scam, [05:14] Hillary Clinton, shifty Adam Schiff. [05:17] It was a Democrat scam, [05:19] and he had to go through that. [05:21] And he did go through it. [05:22] We didn't end up in a war, and he went through it. [05:25] He was accused of all that stuff. [05:27] He had nothing to do with it. [05:28] It came out of Hunter Biden's bathroom. [05:31] It came out of Hunter Biden's bedroom. [05:34] It was disgusting. [05:36] And then they said, oh, oh, [05:38] the laptop from hell was made by Russia. [05:42] The 51 agents, the whole thing was a scam. [05:45] And he had to put up with that. [05:46] He was being accused of all that stuff. [05:49] All I can say is this he might have broken deals with Obama and Bush, [05:54] and he might have broken them with Biden. [05:57] He did. Maybe. Maybe he didn't. [05:58] I don't know what happened, [05:59] but he didn't break him with me. [06:01] He wants to make a deal. [06:02] I don't know if you can make a deal. [06:04] The problem is, I've empowered you to be a tough guy. [06:08] And I don't think you'd be a tough guy without the United States. [06:12] And your people are very brave. [06:14] But you're either going to make a deal or we're out. [06:17] And if we're out, you'll fight it out. [06:19] I don't think it's going to be pretty, [06:21] but you'll fight it out. [06:23] But you don't have the cards. [06:25] But once we sign that deal, [06:27] you're in a much better position. [06:29] But you're not acting at all thankful. [06:31] And that's not a nice thing. I'll be honest. [06:33] That's not a nice thing. All right. [06:35] I think we've seen enough. [06:37] What do you think? Huh? This is. [06:39] This is going to be great television. [06:41] I will say that. [06:43] All right. We'll see what we can do about putting it together. [06:47] Thank you. All right, guys, let's go. [06:51] Guys. Come on, let's go. [06:53] We'll see I don't know. [06:55] All right guys. [06:56] Guys. Come on. Please. Hey! Come on. Let's go. [07:02] Guys. Come on, let's move. Please. [07:05] Please. 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