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Kennedy Jr. was grilled by Senators in his first confirmation hearing for Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) on Wednesday, during which he struggled to convince lawmakers that he is not “anti-vaccine” and appeared unfamiliar with key aspects of healthcare insurance programs and other policies he would oversee._  by [Brian Bennett](https://time.com/author/brian-bennett/)  ## Brian Bennett Bennett is a former senior White House correspondent at TIME. Jan 28, 2025 10:49 PM UTC Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was grilled by Senators in his first confirmation hearing for Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) on Wednesday, during which he struggled to convince lawmakers that he is not “anti-vaccine” and appeared unfamiliar with key aspects of healthcare insurance programs and other policies he would oversee.  by [Brian Bennett](https://time.com/author/brian-bennett/)  ## Brian Bennett Bennett is a former senior White House correspondent at TIME. Jan 28, 2025 10:49 PM UTC When Robert F. Kennedy Jr. starts the first of two days of confirmation hearings on Wednesday, it won’t be just a big moment for the former environmental lawyer and presidential candidate. It will also be a breakthrough event for the once-fringe anti-vaccine movement, as Senators weigh allowing one of its most high-profile boosters to head the nation’s top health agency. Vaccines prevent tens of thousands of deaths and millions of cases of disease each year, [according](https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6019a5.htm) to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Medical experts are concerned that those gains are in jeopardy. The percentage of Americans who consider childhood vaccines important has declined in the past two decades. According to polling from [Gallup](https://news.gallup.com/poll/648308/far-fewer-regard-childhood-vaccinations-important.aspx) released last year, about 40% of Americans say it is extremely important for parents to have their children vaccinated. That is down from 58% in 2019 and 64% in 2001. For decades, Kennedy has been one of the most well-known anti-vaxers in the country, helping spread doubts about their safety in the face of decades of medical data that shows they have saved lives and improved public health. He has also helped legal efforts to tear down vaccine mandates. After a 2015 measles outbreak at Disneyland in Anaheim, Calif. showed that a large number of infected patients hadn’t been vaccinated, Kennedy helped lobby to block several state efforts to close loopholes in vaccine requirements. In 2019, Kennedy helped spread anti-vaccine sentiment in [Samoa](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/28/opinion/rfk-jr-confirmation-hearing.html) as the Pacific Island nation was in the midst of a deadly measles epidemic. Kennedy will appear before the Senate Finance Committee on Wednesday and the health committee on Thursday. Whether or not he is confirmed, those high-profile hearings could amount to an advertisement for the anti-vax movement, some fear. Dr. Tom Frieden, a former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the current president and CEO of the health nonprofit Resolve to Save Lives, warns against the dangers of feeding anti-vax sentiment, which he describes as “a matter of life and death.” “Undermining confidence in vaccines undermines the health and safety of children and all Americans,” Frieden says. “False and misleading claims about vaccines also divert energy and attention from figuring out what really causes chronic illnesses such as autism.” Trump told voters during the campaign that he would let Kennedy “go wild” on health care. While Kennedy has in recent months talked often about a desire to target ultraprocessed foods, many of his supporters expect him to make major changes to the course of U.S. vaccine policy. Kennedy’s allies have encouraged him to dismantle the government’s panel on vaccine safety and recommendations, called the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. If confirmed as HHS secretary, Kennedy would be able to stack the panel with vaccine skeptics. **Read more**: [Trump Draws False Link Between Vaccines and Autism in TIME Interview](https://time.com/7201582/donald-trump-vaccines-fact-check-2024/) Advocates who have been working to undermine public faith in childhood vaccine requirements for decades have been giddy to find themselves welcomed into Donald Trump’s revamped Republican Party. They even had their own ball last week during Trump’s inauguration festivities. The MAHA Inaugural Ball, using the acronym for Make American Healthy Again, was sponsored by MAHA Action, the political action committee Kennedy started last year after suspending his own fledgling presidential bid and endorsing Trump. Del Bigtree, the founder of the Informed Consent Action Network that promotes allowing parents to opt out of childhood vaccine requirements, described the ball as an “amazing moment” during a broadcast of his online show The HighWire. Bigtree was also a former spokesman for Kennedy’s presidential campaign. “Media covered it, there was _Vogue_ articles and _Fox_ and so many different reporters covered the MAHA ball, very very exciting, and all the who’s who of holistic health and fitness and wellness and nutrition, all in one building—many of the O.G.s of the vaccine risk-awareness movement.”  Robert F. Kennedy Jr., speaks during an anti-vaccine mandate rally at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, D.C., on Jan. 23, 2022. Eric Lee—Bloomberg via Getty Images In his testimony before his Senate hearing on Wednesday, Kennedy plans to say he’s not “anti-vaccine or anti-industry” and that he’s “pro-safety,” according to Bloomberg News. That is an abrupt shift from his years of public skepticism and advancing the debunked claim that the measles vaccine is linked to autism and the false idea that the polio vaccine is more deadly than polio itself. Kennedy is all but certain to face questioning at his hearings from multiple long-time vaccine supporters, including Republican Senator Bill Cassidy, a medical doctor who has promoted vaccines in his home state of Louisiana. Cassidy will have the chance to question Kennedy both days, as he is chairman of the Senate health committee and sits on the finance committee. It is unclear how much Cassidy will focus on vaccines during his questioning, but he said on Fox News Sunday earlier this month that Kennedy was [“wrong”](https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5068699-bill-cassidy-robert-f-kennedy-jr-vaccines/) on vaccinations. ## Transcript Chairman, Ranking Member Wyden and members of this distinguished committee. I'm humbled to be sitting here today as President Trump's nominee to oversee the US Department of Health and Human Services. I want to thank President Trump for entrusting me to deliver on his promise to make America wealthy again. I also want to thank Cheryl and Kick and Bobby and all of my other children who are here today, and all the many members of my large extended family for the love that they have so generously shared. Ours has always been a family that has been involved in public service, and I look forward to continuing that tradition. Before I conclude, I want to make sure the committee is clear about a few things. News reports have claimed that I'm anti vaccine or any industry. I am neither. I am pro safety. No harm. We'll have order. Please proceed, Mr. Kennedy. I am pro safety. I worked for years to raise awareness about the mercury and toxic chemicals in fish. And nobody called me any fish. And I believe that my that vaccines play a critical role in health care. All of my kids are vaccinated. I've read many books on vaccines. My first book in 2014, the first line of it is I am not anti-vaccine. And the last line is I am not anti-vaccine, nor am I the enemy of food producers. American farmers are the bedrock of our culture, of our politics, of our national security, Mr. Kennedy. All of these things cannot be true. So are you lying to Congress today when you say you are pro pro-vaccine or did you lie on all those podcasts? He asked me, are there vaccines that are safe and effective? And I said to him, some of the live virus vaccines are. And I said, there are no vaccines that are safe and effective. And I was going to continue for every person, every medicine has people who are sensitive to them, including vaccines. So he interrupted me at that point. I've corrected it many times, including on national TV. You know about this, Senator Biden. So bring this up right now is dishonest. Let's be clear about what you've actually done then, since you want to deny your statements. For example, you have a history of trying to take vaccines away from people. In May of 2021, you petitioned the Food and Drug Administration to not only block Americans from having access to the Covid vaccine, but to prevent any future access to the life saving vaccine. Are you denying that your name is on the petition. We brought that petition after the CDC recommended the Covid vaccine without any scientific basis or six year old children. Most experts agree today, even the people who did it back then at Covid, vaccines are inappropriate for six year old children who basically have a zero risk from Covid. That's why I brought that lawsuit. I don't want to I want to emphasize. The. Fact I don't. Know the facts. The fact. That the committee will be in order. The nominee wrote a book saying that people had been misled into believing that measles is a deadly disease. He's trying now to play down his role in Samoa. That's not what the parents say. That's not what Governor Green says. It's time to make sure that we blow the whistle on actually what your views are. At least we're starting. We need to move on. I support the measles vaccine. I support the polio vaccine. I will do nothing as HHS Secretary that makes it difficult or discourages people from taking any. Anybody who believes that ought to look at the measles book you wrote saying parents have been misled into believing that measles is a deadly disease. That's not true. So I'm asking you, yes or no? Mr. Kennedy, did you say that Covid 19 was a genetically engineered bioweapon that targets black and white people, but spared Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese people? I didn't say it was deliberately targeted. I just I just quoted an NIH funded and NIH published study. Did you say that it targets black and white people but spared Ashkenazi Jews? You quoted a study. Your honor, I quoted an NIH study that showed that. I'll take that as a yes. I have to move on. Mr.. I have to move on. Did you say that Lyme disease is a It is highly likely a materially engineered bioweapon. I made sure I put in the highly likely. Did you say Lyme disease is a highly likely militarily engineered bioweapon? I probably did say that. Did you say that? That's what. The developer. Of. I want all of our colleagues to hear it. Mr. Kennedy, I want them to hear it. You said yes. Did you say that exposure to pesticides causes children to become transgender? No, I never said that. Okay, I have the record that I'll give to the chairman, and he can make his judgment about what you said. Did you write in your book? And I. It's undeniable that African American African Aids is an entirely different disease from Western Aids. Yes or no, Mr. Kennedy? I'm not sure if I may. Okay. I'll give it to the chairman. Mr.. Mr. Kennedy, and my final question. Did you say on a podcast, and I quote, I wouldn't leave it abortion to the States. My belief is we should leave it to the woman. We shouldn't have the government involved, even if it's full term. Did you say that, Mr. Kennedy? Senator, I believe that every abortion is a tragedy. Did you say it, Mr. Kennedy? This matters. It doesn't matter what you come here and say that isn't true. That's not reflective of what you really believe that you haven't said over a decade after decade after decade. Because unlike other jobs, we're confirming around this place, this is a job where it is life and death. For the kids that I used to work for in the Denver Public Schools and for families all over this country that are suffering from living in the richest country of the world, that can't deliver basic health care and basic mental health care to them. It's too important for the games that you're playing, Mr. Kennedy. And I hope my colleagues will say to the president, I have no influence over him. I hope my colleagues will say to the president, out of 330 million Americans, we can do better than this. Thank you. We need to move on. But you also said we need to trust the women to make that choice. Because I don't trust government to make any choices. You said that too, right? Yes. It is remarkable that you have such a long record of fighting for women's reproductive freedom. And really great that my Republican colleagues are so open to voting for a pro-choice HHS secretary. So, Mr. Kennedy, I'm confused. You have clearly stated in the past that bodily autonomy is one of your core values. The question is, do you stand for that value or not? When was it that you decided to sell out the values you had your whole life in order to be given power by President Trump? Senator, I agree with President Trump that every abortion is a tragedy, that we can't be a moral authority in this country. Right. So but that isn't what you said back in New Hampshire in 2023. My question is, exactly when did you decide to sell out your life's work and values to get this position? 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