--- title: These Podcasters Think You Deserve More Money description: Troy Millings and Rashad Bilal started the Earn Your Leisure podcast to teach financial literacy catered to Black audiences. canonical: https://time.com/collections/closers-2025/7210623/troy-millings-rashad-bilal-podcast-earn-your-leisure/ article:content_tier: free article:published_time: 2025-02-06T12:02:07.000Z article:modified_time: 2026-08-04T07:24:42.912Z article:section: Business og:title: These Podcasters Think You Deserve More Money og:description: Troy Millings and Rashad Bilal started the Earn Your Leisure podcast to teach financial literacy catered to Black audiences. og:url: https://time.com/collections/closers-2025/7210623/troy-millings-rashad-bilal-podcast-earn-your-leisure/ og:site_name: TIME og:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/bltb0ff26f782fcfc8d/6998b309e1ba00c43998b5fe/time-2025-closers-rashad-bilal-troy-millings.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 og:image:width: 1200 og:image:height: 675 og:image:alt: These Podcasters Think You Deserve More Money og:type: article twitter:card: summary_large_image twitter:title: These Podcasters Think You Deserve More Money twitter:description: Troy Millings and Rashad Bilal started the Earn Your Leisure podcast to teach financial literacy catered to Black audiences. twitter:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/bltb0ff26f782fcfc8d/6998b309e1ba00c43998b5fe/time-2025-closers-rashad-bilal-troy-millings.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 --- Feb 06, 2025 # These Podcasters Think You Deserve More Money > Sponsored content. 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Chow Correspondent  Bilal and Millings at Black Entrepreneurs Day in Atlanta on Nov. 22 Bilal and Millings at Black Entrepreneurs Day in Atlanta on Nov. 22 Paras Griffin—Getty Images When Troy Millings and Rashad Bilal were early in their careers as a public-school teacher and a financial adviser, respectively, they both quickly realized how little their charges understood about finance. Millings’ students knew almost nothing about how to save or grow money; it wasn’t on any curriculum. And Bilal’s clients—even those in lucrative professions like medicine and law—weren’t much further ahead. “You realize that if these successful people don’t have any idea of money, then the average nine-to-five person really has no chance,” says Bilal, 40\. Given this dearth of knowledge, the two friends decided to team up and start a podcast, _Earn Your Leisure_, which teaches financial literacy specifically catered to Black audiences who have historically been shut out of financial systems. The podcast found a curious and sizable audience during the pandemic, and the duo now helms a rapidly growing media empire that also includes an annual business conference, Invest Fest, and a book, _You Deserve to Be Rich_, which was released in January. For Millings, 42, financial trauma is personal: he watched his parents, Jamaican immigrants, work diligently year after year, only to lose their house due to their lack of understanding of interest rates. As he grew older, he realized that the version of the American Dream he had been taught, in which working-class people could carefully save up to buy a house, seemed increasingly distant. “Starting to see real numbers as an adult, you realize that you can’t save your way to wealth,” he says. So the pair encourages their listeners to pursue multiple income streams and take on entrepreneurial projects. Their book also walks readers through the 101s of long-term investing, even for those on a minimum-wage paycheck. “Living in a rat-race society, the average person is not able to develop patience,” says Bilal, the company’s CEO. “But it is a trait that has to be developed.” The duo had a busy 2024\. Invest Fest attracted 20,000 attendees in Atlanta and featured conversations with Steve Harvey, Don Peebles, and Shannon Sharpe. They also [broke ground](https://www.instagram.com/p/DBjxrshJETA/) on a 300-acre residential community outside Accra, Ghana. They interviewed Vice President Kamala Harris on her [Economic Opportunity Tour](https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/remarks-moderated-conversation-with-rashad-bilal-and-troy-millings-during-the-nationwide). And they launched a pilot financial-literacy curriculum in 10 public high schools in the Bronx, which they hope to expand across New York City. Millings and Bilal are aware that investing can be very daunting for newcomers and that their advice comes with risk. “The big institutions, they look at retail investors as dumb money,” Bilal says. “Before, it was almost impossible to think that the average, everyday person could have enough information to compete with large corporations. But now you can educate yourself enough to be an intelligent investor.” ## Transcript This may sound corny, but they're my parents. Um, they were the first entrepreneurs that I saw. My parents owned a cleaning company where they worked as entrepreneurs, cleaning houses and cleaning restaurants and offices. And my father was a displaced worker, and so was my mom. And I saw them build this thing that made us be able to go to the schools they wanted us to go to, for us to live in a home and not an apartment. Like our lives changed because they were able to say, yeah, we can do this for ourselves. John Lewis, who was a great hero of mine, I was his pastor, but he was the mentor. He's my hero. Um, was in a valiant struggle as a young man. And by the time I met him, he, you know, the civil rights movement was long over, but he continued to do that work. And so people like that inspire me. So the personal role model obviously was absolutely my mother. She was really the one that encouraged me to really make a difference, but not only in research, but also by becoming a nurse practitioner and indicating that, you know, when you go and do research, you want to make sure you bring something that the community needs. And if they need mental health services, you should be able to provide that, not just collect data. This was an environmental justice leader in Honduras that was that was murdered. And I remember meeting her and sitting down for dinner with her and thinking, oh my God, um, this woman is just fearless. 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