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Source: [https://aws.amazon.com/quick/](/c/aws-quick-time-2026q4/home?i=e0c8a20b-153e-40df-a3e5-287a29cff224&cr=aws-quick-2026q4-v1) and [https://aws.amazon.com/quick/pricing/](/c/aws-quick-time-2026q4/pricing?i=e0c8a20b-153e-40df-a3e5-287a29cff224&cr=aws-quick-2026q4-v1) ## Video: 6 Questions for Ajay Banga, World Bank President [Watch (HLS stream): 6 Questions for Ajay Banga, World Bank President](https://cdn.jwplayer.com/manifests/ahYKeTER.m3u8) (4:23)  _Published 2024-11-12. Banga is tasked with helping find funds for emissions reduction and climate change adaptation._ by [Justin Worland](https://time.com/author/justin-worland/) ## Justin Worland Senior Correspondent  Photo-Illustration by TIME (Source Image: Allison Shelley—The Washington Post/Getty Images) Ajay Banga didn’t like the existing decor, so when he took over as World Bank president he gave his grand two-story corner office a makeover. Old-school leather furniture? Gone. Dark lighting that made the space feel like a dungeon? Replaced. And a depressing painting? Swapped out for three framed motivational quotes: “Question everything always,” “Done is better than perfect,” and “Fail harder.” “They are kind of my philosophy of working,” he tells me only moments after my walking in the door. My conversation with Banga at the World Bank’s Washington, D.C., headquarters dug into the wonkiest details of climate finance, from the role portfolio guarantees can play in reducing credit risk to the investment challenges posed by volatile currencies in emerging markets. But his quick office tour offered just as much insight about [his approach](https://time.com/6965013/ajay-banga/) to running the world’s most important development bank: seemingly small tweaks can make a huge difference. Banga entered office in 2023 after his [controversial predecessor,](https://www.bbc.com/news/business-64657711) David Malpass, was forced to resign following controversial remarks that seemed to doubt the science of climate change. Many environmentalists called for a full-scale revamp of the 80-year-old World Bank and other international financial institutions. The bank’s most powerful members—including and especially the U.S.—have also pushed for a greater focus on climate while stopping short of endorsing some of the boldest efforts to remake the institution. Banga has approached the task judiciously. Under [his leadership](https://time.com/collection/davos-2024-ideas-of-the-year/6551981/ajay-banga-world-bank-interview/), the bank has added climate to its mission statement. To implement his agenda, he has pursued a range of seemingly small reforms that can have a big impact accelerating global climate action and intertwining it with the bank’s long-standing development agenda. He has tweaked the rules about how much the World Bank can lend, freeing up space to finance more climate projects. He has sought to integrate climate change into other development programs, from agriculture to education. And he has worked closely with the private sector in hopes that companies will step up to invest the lion’s share of the [trillions of dollars](https://climatenetwork.org/2024/09/20/us5trillion-owed-to-global-south-by-global-north-due-to-the-climate-crisis/) needed to pay for expanding clean energy in the Global South. “There’s a whole Rubik’s Cube to be solved,” he says. “If it begins to make sense numerically, money does flood in.”  Banga at World Bank headquarters in Washington, D.C., on oct. 18 Stephen Voss for TIME This work comes as the focus of the global climate conversation increasingly turns toward finance—both for the energy transition and the adaptation needed to prepare communities around the world for the increasingly dire effects of rising temperatures. Research has found that emerging markets and developing countries need to spend upwards of [$2 trillion annually](https://www.imf.org/en/Blogs/Articles/2023/10/02/emerging-economies-need-much-more-private-financing-for-climate-transition) to meet global climate goals. And at the annual [U.N. climate conference](https://time.com/7174439/sultan-al-jaber-climate-finance-cop29-uae-consensus/)—this November known as COP29 and held in Baku, Azerbaijan—diplomats from nearly 200 countries are working to hash out a climate-finance deal that lays out how much countries in the Global North will give to help their developing counterparts. The most [ambitious proposals](https://www.weforum.org/stories/2024/11/why-cop29-must-secure-trillion-dollar-climate-finance-goal/) call on wealthy nations to provide upwards of a collective $1 trillion each year to the Global South. Banga knows that the [World Bank’s work](https://time.com/collection/time100-climate/6333155/ajay-banga/) is a critical part of the picture, but he tries not to dwell on it. Getting the small things right first will eventually lead to big changes, he says. “Rather than get bogged down by the trillions,” he says, “work on solutions, and let them build at scale.’” --- **In late October,** as finance ministers from around the world flocked to Washington, D.C., for the [annual meetings](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/22/business/economy/imf-inflation-trade-war.html) of the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund (IMF), Banga darted between conversations on agriculture, gender, and jobs. From a quick glance at his schedule, climate change barely seemed to come up. But actually listening to him talk paints a different picture. At an agriculture dialogue, his announcement to double the bank’s agriculture-finance commitments to [$9 billion annually by 2030](https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/world-bank-says-will-double-agricultural-commitments-9-bln-year-by-2030-2024-10-23/) included programs for smallholder farmers to incentivize greener practices. His gender strategy links gender inequality with growing weather extremes; simply put, more fragile societies lead to increased risk of gender violence. And he frames investments in jobs and education as a pathway not just to growing economies but also to climate resilience and the deployment of clean energy. In a way, this is a unique feature of how Banga envisions the bank working on climate. He tells me the approach is born of his travels to member countries around the world where he saw how climate change was exacerbating other challenges on the ground, [from migration](https://time.com/collection/davos-2024-ideas-of-the-year/6551978/patricia-velasquez-wayuu-migration-aid/) to educational attainment. “It’s intertwined,” he says. “You can’t segregate it.” There’s an element of practicality to this approach too. The World Bank was first founded after World War II to help finance the reconstruction of Europe, and, along with the IMF, has since become a central node in a group of international financial institutions meant to help developing countries grow their economies and get through tough times. And, while the effects of climate change are of dire concern to leaders in the Global South, that’s not the only thing on their minds. Citizens still expect their governments to deliver development—from better roads and bridges to new jobs. And that has been especially challenging in the post-COVID-19 period when strained budgets have left many countries in deep debt. **Read More:** [_How to Avoid A Climate Backlash_](https://time.com/6998407/climate-backlash-how-to-avoid/) Banga has had to thread a difficult needle—showing member countries that he is committed to the bank’s tried-and-true mission while advancing climate efforts. And so many of his efforts have focused on using existing mechanisms rather than creating new, exclusively climate-focused ones. He adjusted the so-called equity-to-loans ratio, which determines how much the bank can lend, to allow it to lend an additional $30 billion over the next decade. He streamlined bureaucratic processes to cut average project approval time from [19 months to 16](https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/world-bank-chief-pushes-internal-reforms-spring-meetings-2024-04-12/). And he used the bank’s profits to start a new Livable Planet Fund, which will be used to cut the costs of financing projects. The results have been significant. The bank’s climate finance deployed neared $43 billion in the last fiscal year. That’s a 10% increase over the prior year and brings it close to reaching its 2025 target of devoting 45% of its financing to climate. And all that money can go even further as it attracts private capital on its coattails.  Banga, left, surveys the impact of rising seas in Funafuti, Tuvalu, in September Kirsty Needham—Reuters Still, it doesn’t take a math Ph.D. to see that the World Bank won’t be able to fill the massive climate finance gap on its own. The bank manages hundreds of billions of dollars in investments; climate change requires annual investments that measure in the trillions. “There is no way that any amount of financial engineering that I do with the balance sheet ... can get there,” he says. “The reality is everybody has fiscal constraints.” Banga’s solution is private finance. The owners and managers of trillions of dollars in capital have said they want to invest in the [energy transition](https://time.com/7098721/us-energy-department-jennifer-granholm-clean-energy/), but a flurry of risks have held them back. “This idea that you can wave a wand and get the private sector to come in ... it’s not how it works,” says Banga. But Banga thinks he can bridge the gap. It makes sense. Before leading the World Bank, Banga had a storied career in the private sector, most notably as the [CEO of Mastercard](https://www.reuters.com/business/biden-nominates-former-mastercard-chief-banga-head-world-bank-2023-02-23/) but also in banking and in growth equity. Since taking office, he has launched a Private Sector Investment Lab working with the CEOs of [BlackRock](https://time.com/6979607/blackrock/), HSBC, and other big financial institutions to work through the biggest challenges holding back private investment, from currency risk to a lack of regulatory certainty. In October, he launched a set of solutions tailored to address those risks. “He fundamentally understands that to take on these big, bold aspirations and actually execute them on a timeline, you have to work outside of your own institution,” says [Rajiv Shah](https://time.com/6323909/rajiv-shah-big-bets-interview/), the president of the Rockefeller Foundation, which in September joined a World Bank program to provide electricity to [300 million people](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-09-20/a-90-billion-world-bank-plan-to-electrify-africa-gets-underway) across Africa. Every World Bank president faces their share of critics. And Banga is no exception. Some fear that his climate initiatives veer too far from the bank’s original mission. Others say his climate work is too piecemeal and too reliant on the private sector. A re-envisioning of the postwar international financial system with new institutions focused solely on climate would better serve us, they say. Banga is aware of all the challenges the bank must navigate, particularly as countries face populist revolts in parts of the world that aren’t too happy about multilateralism.  Without my prompting, Banga addresses widespread concern that [now-President elect Donald Trump](https://time.com/7174166/what-trump-presidency-means-for-climate-action/) may not like his agenda, saying that his work at the bank is “common sense” and “has nothing to do with politics.” “Smart management of money… Who's going to say no to that?” he asks almost incredulously. “The fact that I'm willing to do more work with the private sector, you really think President Trump will say no to that?” Still, the long-term future of the bank is clearly on his mind. Along with his IMF counterpart, he’s convened a working group to think through some of the big questions. But when I ask him about what the bank may look like in 30 years, he pivots right back into the programmatic changes he’s making today. “Forecasts are not destiny,” he says. “You can change destiny, but you have to work at it.” ## Transcript [00:08] You cannot deal with poverty or the alleviation of poverty and [00:13] inequality without recognizing that food insecurity and climate and fragility, [00:18] conflict, and violence, and the things that that creates are intertwined challenges. [00:42] People find their way through the most difficult circumstances. [00:47] I grew up in a country which was very challenged when I was a young man in the 60s, [00:51] and you look at India today and look where it's grown and look how it's doing, [00:55] and it tells you that people can make a difference when they put their minds to it. [00:59] That's my faith. I think in the private sector, [01:06] you have a lot of things that are similar to what the bank has to do. [01:10] You've got challenges that look insurmountable, [01:12] no matter which place you come from, [01:14] you've got certain tools to work with. [01:16] The most important tool is your people and finding [01:19] a way to motivate them through simplicity of communication, [01:22] tracking measures of success, [01:24] celebrating success, encouraging people to take risks. [01:27] This is common between the private sector and the kind of place I am in today. [01:32] Some other tools may be different, [01:33] but the quality of people aspect is very common. [01:39] So I think that there's not enough money in the MDB or [01:43] philanthropic or government public world to be able to take on the challenges of climate, [01:48] let alone the wider SDGs. [01:50] Estimates are from trillions of dollars a year. [01:52] That's just a lot of money for everything that's going on today. [01:55] The only real way to get it is to get the private sector [01:58] involved through a consistent investing of money, [02:01] but even more importantly, [02:02] their technology, their innovation, and their people. [02:05] So what we've tried to do is to create a private sector lab, [02:08] run by MarkKai and Strity Valera, [02:10] staffed by 15 of the world's CEOs who are both asset managers and [02:14] operators and investors in banks and bring them [02:17] in and talk about the things that we could do at the bank. [02:19] Help them bring their money to bear on renewable energy in the middle income markets, [02:25] and getting them involved gives us [02:28] their best ideas and creates credibility for the solutions we are trying to work. [02:32] But also, their involvement helps us to change because we see things from their eyes. [02:38] So this is kind of a win win for both of us. [02:44] You can't just speak about climate in terms of mitigation or in terms of [02:49] renewable energy to bend the arc of the emission heavy growth that we've all had. [02:54] You have to also think about it from the eyes of [02:57] people who feel they didn't put that to happen, [02:59] but they are having to deal with the consequences of it, [03:02] what we call adaptation. [03:04] And being able to think about both at the same time and think about [03:07] a natural way of dealing with the causes and the effects is really important. [03:16] The real task ahead is to pivot the bank to not [03:20] just thinking about the input of education and skilling, [03:23] of better healthcare, of better infrastructure, [03:26] or of better work on climate, [03:28] but also to think about the output of all that, [03:31] which is if we get the right public sector governance [03:33] and the right opportunities on regulatory policy, [03:36] which we can do in working with governments, [03:39] then can we create the right environment for private enterprises, [03:42] small and large, private farmers, [03:45] small and large to succeed? [03:47] Because we know that's where the jobs will come from. [03:50] I'm trying to pivot as to the output of jobs because 1.2 billion young [03:55] people in the developing world will become eligible for jobs in the coming 15 years. [04:00] Currently, those same countries are on a pathway to generate 400 plus million jobs. [04:06] That's a big gap. Forecasts are not destiny. [04:09] We can change it, but we have to do something about it. 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