--- title: Harris Vows to Be Different From Biden in Fiery Fox Interview description: The interview between Vice President Kamala Harris and Fox chief political anchor Bret Baier was frequently testy, with both frequently interrupting and speaking over each other. canonical: https://time.com/7093947/kamala-harris-fox-interview/ author: TIME article:opinion: false article:content_tier: free article:published_time: 2024-10-17T01:47:03.000Z article:modified_time: 2026-08-04T07:50:16.250Z article:section: Politics og:title: Harris Vows to Be Different From Biden in Fiery Fox Interview og:description: The interview between Vice President Kamala Harris and Fox chief political anchor Bret Baier was frequently testy, with both frequently interrupting and speaking over each other. og:url: https://time.com/7093947/kamala-harris-fox-interview/ og:site_name: TIME og:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blte38bdaea49b33b17/698a89f11868920f926cd322/kamala-harris.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 og:image:width: 1500 og:image:height: 844 og:image:alt: Kamala Harris og:type: article twitter:card: summary_large_image twitter:title: Harris Vows to Be Different From Biden in Fiery Fox Interview twitter:description: The interview between Vice President Kamala Harris and Fox chief political anchor Bret Baier was frequently testy, with both frequently interrupting and speaking over each other. twitter:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blte38bdaea49b33b17/698a89f11868920f926cd322/kamala-harris.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 ---  # Harris Vows to Be Different From Biden in Fiery Fox Interview > Sponsored content. 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Vice President Kamala Harris engaged in a combative first interview with Fox News on Wednesday, sparring on immigration policy and shifting policy positions while asserting that if elected, she would not represent a continuation of Joe Biden's presidency._ by [Jennifer Epstein and Hadriana Lowenkron / Bloomberg](https://time.com/author/bloomberg/) ## Jennifer Epstein and Hadriana Lowenkron / Bloomberg Contributor Oct 17, 2024 1:47 AM UTC  U.S. Vice President and Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris speaks at a campaign event at Washington Crossing Historic Park in Washington Crossing, Pa., on Oct. 16, 2024. U.S. Vice President and Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris speaks at a campaign event at Washington Crossing Historic Park in Washington Crossing, Pa., on Oct. 16, 2024. Ryan Collerd—AFP/Getty Images by [Jennifer Epstein and Hadriana Lowenkron / Bloomberg](https://time.com/author/bloomberg/) ## Jennifer Epstein and Hadriana Lowenkron / Bloomberg Contributor Oct 17, 2024 1:47 AM UTC Vice President [Kamala Harris](https://time.com/7009317/reintroduction-of-kamala-harris/) sought to deflect criticism over the administration’s handling of the border crisis, her stance on transgender rights and her ties to President [Joe Biden](https://time.com/7001028/why-joe-biden-stepped-down/) in a combative interview Wednesday on Fox News. “Let me be very clear, my presidency will not be a continuation of Joe Biden’s presidency, and like every new president that comes in to office, I will bring my life experiences, my professional experiences and fresh and new ideas,” Harris said. The Democratic presidential nominee’s first formal interview with the outlet ran for nearly half an hour, capping a day where Harris sought to broaden her appeal to conservative voters with an event in suburban Philadelphia featuring dozens of Republican officials who had endorsed her campaign. The interview between Harris and Fox chief political anchor Bret Baier was frequently testy, with both frequently interrupting and speaking over each other. Baier opened the interview by pressing Harris on immigration, which voters have pegged as one of the defining issues of the election. Harris argued that the administration has taken the issue of immigration seriously and that many of the problems they were facing pre-dated her and Biden taking office, and hit at Trump for his role in blocking a bipartisan bill that would have surged resources to address the border surge. “We’ve had a broken immigration system transcending by the way Donald Trump’s administration even before. Let’s all be honest about that. I have no pride in saying that this is a perfect immigration system,” she said. The vice president said she and Biden had offered legislation to address the immigration system within hours of taking office. “Our focus has been on fixing a problem,” she said. But Baier pressed Harris on the number of undocumented migrants who had entered the country in recent years, and confronted Harris with a video clip of a family member blaming the Biden-Harris administration for the death of a woman murdered by someone in the country illegally. Asked if she would apologize to that family, Harris responded that they were “tragic cases.” “I am so sorry for her loss. I am so sorry for her loss, sincerely,” Harris added. “I feel awful for what she and her family have experienced.” But she also insisted that Trump had stymied efforts to find a bipartisan solution to the problem, saying: “Let’s talk about what is happening right now with an individual who does not want to participate in solutions.” During the interview, Baier also played an advertisement from the Trump campaign attacking Harris for statements during the 2020 presidential campaign in which she said she would use taxpayer dollars to pay for gender transition surgeries for prisoners. Harris responded by noting a recent New York Times report that federal prisoners had received gender affirming care during Trump’s administration. “I think frankly that ad from the Trump campaign is a little bit of like throwing you know stones when you’re living in a glass house,” Harris said. “I will follow the law, and it’s a law that Donald Trump actually followed.” While Harris earned plaudits from supporters who applauded her vigorous exchange with Baier, one moment during the exchanged seemed destined to become fodder in future campaign ads. When the Fox News host defended Trump by saying the Republican didn’t actively advocate the treatment for transgender inmates, Harris said candidates had to take responsibility “for what happened in your administration.” The line could provide a convenient soundbite for Trump at a moment Harris’ campaign is seeking distance from Biden. Harris devoted significant time during the Fox interview to arguing she represented “a new generation of leadership,” after earning criticism for saying during an interview with _The View_ last week that she could not think of a decision she would have approached differently than the current president. Still, asked what voters should turn the page from—particularly with polls showing many unhappy with the direction of the country—Harris focused her response toward her opponent: “The last decade in which we have been burdened with the kind of rhetoric coming from Donald Trump.” ## Transcript First bill, practically within hours of taking the oath was a bill to fix our immigration system. Yes, ma'am. It was called the US Citizen Citizenship Act of 2008. Exactly 21. And essentially way to citizenship. May I finish responding? You have to let me finish. You the White House and the House and the Senate. I mean, they didn't bring up. Responding to the point you're raising. Okay. And I'd like to finish. Yes, ma'am. Well, first of all, turning the page from the last decade in which we have been burdened with the kind of rhetoric coming from Donald Trump that has been designed and implemented to divide our country and have Americans literally point fingers at each other. Rhetoric and an approach to leadership that suggests that the strength of a leader is based on who you beat down instead of what we all know. The strength of leadership is based on who you lift up. The sent perm. The American president, which is one who understands that the vast majority of us have more in common than what separates us. Pre 78% of people. That is page on rhetoric that people are frankly exhausted of Bret. More than s percent people tell. I'm sorry, and with all due respect, that clip was not what he has been saying about the enemy within that he has repeated. When he's speaking about the American people. That's not what you just showed. He was asked. That's not what you just showed in all fairness. And respect to the question that we asked him. He didn't show that, and here's the bottom line. He has repeated it many times. And you and I both know that. And you and I both know that he has talked about turning the American military on the American people. He has talked about going after people who are engaged in peaceful protest. He has talked about locking people up because they disagree with him. 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