--- description: A former writer for the Muppets said he considered Bert and Ernie to be gay — and Sesame Street quickly refuted his interpretation title: Sesame Street Was Just Forced to Issue a Clarification About Bert and Ernie's Sexuality image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt9b128ca451e416fc/69893a8de76ad2826d63305b/bert-ernie-sesame-street.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 ---  * [Newsfeed](/tag/time-section-newsfeed/) ## Newsfeed Update your preferences in [Account Settings](/account/preferences/) Close # Sesame Street Says Bert And Ernie 'Don't Have a Sexual Orientation' After Longtime Writer Claims They're Gay  by [Raisa Bruner](/author/raisa-bruner/)  ## Raisa Bruner Update your preferences in [Account Settings](/account/preferences/) Close Sep 18, 2018 8:20 PM CUT  Sesame Street Muppets Ernie and Bert pose for photographs during a press conference on the 40th anniversary of the Sesame Street in Hamburg, Germany, 07 January 2013. Sesame Street Muppets Ernie and Bert pose for photographs during a press conference on the 40th anniversary of the Sesame Street in Hamburg, Germany, 07 January 2013.picture alliance—picture alliance via Getty Images  by [Raisa Bruner](/author/raisa-bruner/)  ## Raisa Bruner Update your preferences in [Account Settings](/account/preferences/) Close Sep 18, 2018 8:20 PM CUT A former writer for [_Sesame Street_](http://time.com/5297032/sesame-street-lawsuit-happytime-murders/ "undefined") said in a recent interview that he considered Bert and Ernie to be gay — but the show rebutted this claim, saying the puppets “do not have a sexual orientation.” The most recent back-and-forth over Bert and Ernie’s sexual orientation came after former _Sesame Street_ writer Mark Saltzman, who worked for the show from 1981 until 1990, discussing his career writing scripts for [The Muppets](http://time.com/4852111/kermit-frog-whitmire/ "undefined") in an [interview with Queerty](https://www.queerty.com/exclusive-bert-ernie-couple-finally-answer-20180916 "undefined"). “I always felt that without a huge agenda, when I was writing Bert & Ernie, they were \[gay\],” Saltzman said. “I didn’t have any other way to contextualize them. The other thing was, more than one person referred to Arnie & I as ‘Bert & Ernie,'” he added, referring to his own partner. --- > “” --- The Sesame Workshop refuted Saltzman’s interpretation, calling Bert and Ernie “best friends.” “They were created to teach preschoolers that people can be good friends with those who are very different from themselves. Even though they are identified as male characters and possess many human traits and characteristics (as most Sesame Street characters do), they remain puppets, and do not have a sexual orientation,” Sesame Workshop said in a statement on Twitter. --- > “” --- > [](https://twitter.com/SesameWorkshop/status/1042117602678587395) The discussion prompted swift reaction from longtime Sesame Street fans on social media. > [](https://twitter.com/oureric/status/1042124123781193731) > [](https://twitter.com/TheFrankOzJam/status/1042118820142436352) > [](https://twitter.com/LuxAlptraum/status/1042127268032798720) > [](https://twitter.com/tobinlow/status/1042113384592957441) > [](https://twitter.com/huckleberryduck/status/1042131098174738432) ```json [{"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","@id":"https://time.com/5399940/sesame-street-bert-ernie-gay/","mainEntityOfPage":{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https://time.com/5399940/sesame-street-bert-ernie-gay/"},"headline":"Sesame Street Says Bert And Ernie 'Don't Have a Sexual Orientation' After Longtime Writer Claims They're Gay","datePublished":"2018-09-18T20:20:12.000Z","dateModified":"2026-04-13T07:54:56.953Z","description":"The writer says he always thought of them as a \"loving couple\"","url":"https://time.com/5399940/sesame-street-bert-ernie-gay/","keywords":["Newsfeed","Television","onetime"],"thumbnailUrl":"https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt9b128ca451e416fc/69893a8de76ad2826d63305b/bert-ernie-sesame-street.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=1200:675&height=675","author":[{"@type":"Person","name":"Raisa Bruner","jobTitle":null,"url":"https://time.com/author/raisa-bruner/"}],"articleSection":"","image":[{"@type":"ImageObject","url":"https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt9b128ca451e416fc/69893a8de76ad2826d63305b/bert-ernie-sesame-street.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=1200:675&height=675","width":1200,"height":675,"headline":"40th anniversary of Sesame Street in Germany","caption":"40th anniversary of Sesame Street in Germany","creditText":"picture alliance—picture alliance via Getty Images","representativeOfPage":true}],"publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"Time","url":"https://time.com/","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","url":"https://time.com/images/logo.png","width":528,"height":156},"foundingDate":"March 3, 1923","sameAs":["https://www.facebook.com/time","https://www.instagram.com/time/?hl=en","https://twitter.com/time","https://www.pinterest.com/timemagazine"]}},{"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"BreadcrumbList","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"item":{"@id":"/tag/time-section-newsfeed/","name":"Newsfeed"}},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"item":{"@id":"https://time.com/5399940/sesame-street-bert-ernie-gay/","name":"Sesame Street Says Bert And Ernie 'Don't Have a Sexual Orientation' After Longtime Writer Claims They're Gay"}}]},{"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"VideoObject","name":"How Sesame Street Has Always Been Pushing the Envelope","description":"The newest muppet, Julia, has been lauded for representing kids with autism, but Sesame Street has a long history of being as inclusive as possible.","thumbnailUrl":"https://cdn.jwplayer.com/v2/media/gVle6ToG/poster.jpg?width=720","uploadDate":"2017-04-05T21:30:15.000Z","contentUrl":"https://cdn.jwplayer.com/manifests/gVle6ToG.m3u8","embedUrl":"https://time.com/5399940/sesame-street-bert-ernie-gay/","duration":"PT1M55S","potentialAction":{"@type":"SeekToAction","target":"https://time.com/5399940/sesame-street-bert-ernie-gay/?jw_start={seek_to_second_number}","startOffset-input":"required name=seek_to_second_number"}}] ```