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# Al Franken Tells Colbert About the Moment John McCain Voted No on Health Care Repeal

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## Derek Lawrence / Entertainment Weekly


Aug 2, 2017 2:13 PM UTC

![Seth Meyers Interviews Senator Al Franken](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt1dfc51f127684b49/6988d817196cf4e080041488/al-franken-john-mccain-health-care.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=3:2)

Senator Al Franken speaks at The Great Hall at Cooper Union on August 1, 2017 in New York City.

Senator Al Franken speaks at The Great Hall at Cooper Union on August 1, 2017 in New York City. Rob Kim—Getty Images

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## Derek Lawrence / Entertainment Weekly


Aug 2, 2017 2:13 PM UTC

[John McCain’s vote against repealing the Affordable Care Act](http://ew.com/news/2017/07/28/health-care-repeal-fail-john-mccain/) was a surprise to many, but not to Al Franken.

Appearing on Tuesday’s _Late Show_, the Democratic senator from Minnesota explained why he saw McCain’s decision coming, and it had to do with the whereabouts of Vice President Mike Pence.

“I suspected, but I didn’t know for sure because Pence had left the room,” chuckled Franken. “So that told me that he was going to vote no.”

The thumbs down from the Republican senator sparked applause from the gallery and some staffers, but Franken explains that Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer put a quick end to the celebration.

“Everyone stopped because we didn’t want to gloat,” explained Franken. “And we shouldn’t gloat; this is serious, serious stuff.”

Watch the clip above.

_The Late Show_ airs weeknights at 11:35 p.m. ET on CBS.

_This_ [_article_](http://ew.com/tv/2017/08/01/al-franken-john-mccain-voted-no-health-care-repeal-late-show/) _originally appeared on_ [_EW.com_](http://www.ew.com)

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