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# Katy Perry Discusses Taylor Swift Feud and the True Meaning of 'Swish Swish'

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## Video: Katy Perry Reveals Exactly What Led to Her Taylor Swift Feud: 'She Started It'

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_Published 2017-05-23. Katy Perry is telling her side of the story as to what led to her feud with Taylor Swift_


by 

[Ashley Hoffman](https://time.com/author/ashley-hoffman/)


## Ashley Hoffman


May 24, 2017 7:17 PM UTC

by 

[Ashley Hoffman](https://time.com/author/ashley-hoffman/)


## Ashley Hoffman


May 24, 2017 7:17 PM UTC

After Katy Perry confirmed a long-rumored clash with [Taylor Swift that began with a disagreement over shared backup dancers](http://time.com/4790154/katy-perry-taylor-swift-feud-carpool-karaoke/) on Monday, Perry says she’s ready to mend fences.

During a Tuesday interview with SiriusXM Morning Mash Up to promote her upcoming album, Perry addressed speculation that her latest strongly worded track is a barb aimed directly at the _1989_ singer.

“‘Swish Swish’ just basically is like, I stay winning. I just like, you know I’m above that cr-p,” Perry said. “I’m gonna stay winning. You’re gonna try to hold me down. I’m gonna come out like a phoenix rising.”

Perry then doubled down on her comments in [_EW_](http://time.com/4771017/katy-perry-bad-blood-response-new-album/) and on [Carpool Karaoke](http://time.com/4790154/katy-perry-taylor-swift-feud-carpool-karaoke/) with James Corden and referenced Swift’s song “Bad Blood,” which the singer never confirmed was about Perry.

“You know it’s not about any one thing. Like of course we \[Taylor Swift and Katy Perry\] have our situation. I did try and reach out to her. I tried to do the right thing, the good thing, and you know she shut me down and wrote a song.”

And if Swift were to call Perry on FaceTime, would Perry answer?

“Absolutely,” Perry said. “By the way, I am ready because I think when women unite, the world is going to heal.”

Perry continued:

“I don’t have any beef really with anyone. I love everyone and honestly, I love everyone and I think we need to unite now more than ever.”

Watch the clip below. Perry’s new album _Witness_ comes out June 9.


## Transcript

The war of words. Well, it's just heating up, guys, between Katy Perry and Taylor Swift. Katy Perry is sharing her side of the story about her and Taylor's epic feud. Now she told James Corden. The nearly three year long feud, that's a long time, was all over, get this, backup dancers. On the carpool karaoke primetime special she said, quote, there's a situation. Honestly, it's like she started it. And it's time for her to finish it, ooh. Perry went on to tell the Late Later Show host that the rivalry started over three back up dancers, and that she tried to talk to Swift about it, but Swift wouldn't speak to her.

Going on to say, quote, it was a full shutdown, and then she writes a song about me, and I'm like, okay, cool, cool That's how you wanna deal with it? Karma, ouch. Now Corden asked Perry if the feud will ever end. And the Swish, Swish singer responded that she's ready for that, quote, BS to be done with. I know ladies, why can't we all get along? Saying that she wants women together and not divided [ MUSIC ] And by listeners and by fans. Ladies, ladies, ladies.

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