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Why are you putting yourself through this?

We feared that if no one stood up for these principles, from the actual conservative side, that they might be forgotten. I knew that many would mock what we are doing here, but I didn’t think that was a good enough reason not to do it.

What are the states you’d need to deny Trump and Clinton 270 electoral votes ?

If it is very close, Utah can be enough. The other two states that are possible for us [to win] are Wyoming and Idaho.

Any new endorsements coming down the pike?

I am not looking for validation for this effort from people who allowed Trump and Clinton to be nominated.

Are you building a new kind of conservatism?

It is definitely a new conservative movement. We will not be able to be part of a party that has become a populist, white-nationalist political organization.

This appears in the November 07, 2016 issue of TIME.

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