By Elizabeth Dias
October 27, 2016

Why are you putting yourself through this?

We feared that if no one stood up for these principles, from the actual conservative side, that they might be forgotten. I knew that many would mock what we are doing here, but I didn’t think that was a good enough reason not to do it.

What are the states you’d need to deny Trump and Clinton 270 electoral votes ?

If it is very close, Utah can be enough. The other two states that are possible for us [to win] are Wyoming and Idaho.

Any new endorsements coming down the pike?

I am not looking for validation for this effort from people who allowed Trump and Clinton to be nominated.

Are you building a new kind of conservatism?

It is definitely a new conservative movement. We will not be able to be part of a party that has become a populist, white-nationalist political organization.

This appears in the November 07, 2016 issue of TIME.

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