What do media mogul Arianna Huffington and NBA player Andre Iguodala have in common?
They both understand the importance of sleep.
Huffington, a 2011 TIME 100 honoree, met up with Iguodala at the Golden State Warriors’ practice facility in Oakland, Calif., to talk about why people need good sleep and how they both make time for it in their busy lives. Their discussion is part of a new TIME video series that brings pioneers of different backgrounds together in conversation.
Huffington, the author of The Sleep Revolution, said she gets about eight hours of sleep each night. “Everybody’s trying to figure out how to integrate work and life,” she said. “What do we prioritize, what do we give up. One of the things that helped me is to say ‘No’ more.”
Iguodala, a player for the Warriors, said that being well rested made him perform better on the court. “That sacrifice, in the grand scheme, you’re really not sacrificing,” he said of going to bed early. “You’re taking care of yourself. And maybe something has to be missed out, but you can still balance that.”
Watch the video above to see more of their engaging dialogue, and to learn what Huffington and Iguodala each do before bed every night.