Earlier this week, we published video footage — along with one memorable GIF — of Donald Trump dodging a bald eagle during his TIME cover shoot in August. Trump later insisted that he was not really frightened by the bird. But another presidential nominee, Jeb Bush, has weighed in — and seems to think Trump was definitely scared.

Business Insider asked Bush if he’d seen the footage. At first, Bush laughed and said, “Yeah, I don’t know if it was real or not. Was it real?” Once he got confirmation that the footage was, indeed, very much real, he seemed to get a little more serious.
“Looked like the eagle scared him a little bit,” he said.
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