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But the multitalented director swears he's actually quite normal._  by [Daniel D'Addario](https://time.com/author/daniel-daddario/)  ## Daniel D'Addario Jul 17, 2015 3:16 PM UTC  Emma Stone and Joaquin Phoenix star in Irrational Man Emma Stone and Joaquin Phoenix star in Irrational Man Sabrina Lantos—Sony Pictures Classics  by [Daniel D'Addario](https://time.com/author/daniel-daddario/)  ## Daniel D'Addario Jul 17, 2015 3:16 PM UTC At 26, Emma Stone has already been a leading lady onscreen for some five years, since her 2010 breakthrough in _Easy A_; she recently made a well-received Broadway debut, in _Cabaret_, and received an Oscar nomination, for her role in _Birdman_. And the talent with whom she seems most eager to align herself is Woody Allen, who’s directed her in two recent films. It’s a complicated proposition for a star who’s been on the rise for as long as she’s been working, problematic in part for how intuitive it seems. Even after the 2014 furor over allegations against Allen, allying oneself closely with him will never be met with meaningful pushback. With this week’s release of _Irrational Man_, in which Stone plays opposite Joaquin Phoenix, the actress follows in a long line of actresses who’ve worked with the director multiple times, including Scarlett Johansson, Dianne Wiest, Diane Keaton, and Allen’s former romantic partner Mia Farrow. (Stone had previously starred in 2014’s _Magic in the Moonlight_.) It’s a path that has long led to great things, professionally: Wiest and Keaton are among a long list of actresses (including, most recently, _Blue Jasmine_ star Cate Blanchett) who’ve won Academy Awards for their roles in Allen films, while Johansson, now a critical darling, broke free from derision with strong performances in _Match Point_ and _Vicky Cristina Barcelona_. Stone’s work in Allen’s films, taken solely on its merits, seems unlikely to catapult her forward in the way others have been. In _Magic in the Moonlight_, she was badly miscast, placed in the midst of a period drama among stodgy Brits while adjusting no aspect of her millennial mien; her trademark frankness went beyond “refreshing” to the point of jarringly discordant. In _Irrational Man_, she’s a better fit, but runs up against of the limitations of the script (she’s tasked with repeatedly describing just what about Phoenix intrigues her, and falls shorter each time) and against Allen’s casting choices. In _Magic in the Moonlight_, Stone is romanced by Colin Firth, 28 years her senior. The difference between Stone and _Irrational Man_ lead Phoenix is a mere 14 years. These differences in age aren’t just theoretical. They get to the heart of the two problems for any actress who wants to work with Allen. The first, and lesser, is technical: Allen is famously unwilling to provide direction to his actors, allowing them to feel through their roles for themselves. Stone, so adept elsewhere, seemed utterly at a loss with Firth. She makes more magic with Phoenix in her new film, but the twists of the plot—Stone is in love with Phoenix’s philosophy professor, who comes to be disgusted by Phoenix’s absolutism in defense of his beliefs—appear, frankly, difficult to navigate in the absence of direction. Neither a put-together Stone’s defense of a disheveled Phoenix’s “burnout look” as sexy nor her self-denying remark at a restaurant—”I love that you order for me!”—square with any aspect of Stone’s well-defined personality, and she doesn’t give us anything new. In that absence of enough direction to make any role intriguing, there are two sorts of women in Allen films—the type who win acting awards as a result of how much they’re given to do, and the ones who exist as young and appealing fixtures in the lives of male leads. In the first category falls Johansson in _Match Point_, Blanchett in _Blue Jasmine_, and Parker Posey, who steals the show in _Irrational Man_. Stone, sadly, has now fallen twice into the second group. Yes, Stone would likely carry across the love affair more ably under the hand of a more active director. But that’s a useless thought experiment: What other prominent director, twice granted access to one of the most widely-admired young actresses working, would twice give her roles whose entire purpose is bland repartee with father figures? This gives rise to the greater problem with Stone’s work for Allen: That it represents a whole new generation giving the thumbs-up to a figure whom it’s morally complex (at best) to support. Whether or not something from life is playing itself out in Allen’s twice placing Stone into pairings with significantly older romantic partners, it calls to mind darker, more uncomfortable aspects for any audience member. In a [2014 op-ed](http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/01/an-open-letter-from-dylan-farrow/?%5Fr=0), Dylan Farrow, the daughter of actress Mia, alleged sexual abuse by Allen committed when the author had been seven years old. She asked Stone, Blanchett, Johansson, and others how they could work with Allen, and it’s a legitimate question: Though Allen has not been charged with a crime, the degree to which scandal has followed him for decades makes working with him, particularly for a female star, a decision that requires willful blindness to a lot that’s troubling. What’s in it for Stone? She’s not doing her best work in _Irrational Man—_while the role gives her just enough to play and she does a decent job, she seems off-balance throughout. And in spite of her attempts to make Allen seem cute for a new generation, as with a much-circulated anecdote about how she [taught him about Twitter](http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/emma-stone-tried-to-teach-woody-allen-twitter-with-his-own-joke-2015157), just like she did her [onscreen dad in _Birdman_](https://youtu.be/eZzARlfS34I), there’s still a penumbra of weirdness surrounding an actress willing to put herself forward as Allen’s designated star at this particular moment in time. Stone, though, appears to have fairly limited options. She’s a gifted performer who’s already done the franchise thing, and, since there are no big-budget films centered around the lives of women, that leaves lower-budget cinema the only option. Choosing independent films by less established directors would represent a substantive risk. Woody Allen’s films are made without turbulence and widely-seen. Taking on a role in them represents a potential opportunity to try something new and to get credibility. That the new thing Allen has twice had Stone try is “What if you were dumber than you are, and into an older man?,” and that there are so few other onscreen opportunities for an actress to do meaningful work, isn’t Stone’s fault—but it’s become her problem. ## Transcript [ MUSIC ] You used to express a desire to read Moby Dick. Has this wish been fulfilled? Yes, I read Moby Dick [ COUGH ] while I was making the movie Love and Death. I, I filmed in Budapest and when I came back from work each night, there was absolutely nothing to do in Budapest at the time when I was there, it was a drab city, and the Russian Army occupied it. So I would come back to my hotel, and read Moby Dick. And and I finished it, started and finished it while I was shooting Love and Death in Budapest and, and liked it very, very much. But I never would've thought I would've loved anything at all that remotely revolved around whaling. [ LAUGH ] This is from Rohit Sang in New York City. Mm- hm. I understand that you are more of a musician than a singer. But when you are in the shower, or in the car alone, or doing karaoke, what one song do you like to just belt out? I can sing in the shower, and my repertoire is limitless. And I can sing anything in the shower and I, you know, I sing all the jazz and pop tunes, all the Cole Porter tunes. And my rendition of Easy To Love by Cole Porter is probably as good one could hear, in the shower. [ LAUGH ] Outside of the shower I start to have some problems with reality. Speaking as a young neurotic person, has being neurotic in life done more good or more harm, in your experience? Well, it's interesting, people tend to think that I'm neurotic. And this I feel is a testimony to my acting ability. Over the years I've played the neurotic and I've played it so well I think. It's I'm not a good actor but that I can do. And I played that one little thing that I can do well. That is a neurotic character so effectively that people tend to think I'm neurotic in my life. When in fact, the truth of the matter is, if you looked at my entire life you'd find that I, I'm not really very neurotic, I'm very structured, normal. I have a wife now of ten years. I have two kids that I'm devoted to. I have been very productive my whole life. I don't sit around brooding and contemplating suicide or getting high or, or dissipating myself. I've been a very disciplined worker. I have my jazz orchestra that I, requires practice and discipline and I play with. I have my writing and I've been able to do all these things on an ongoing basis for years and, and a neurotic personality would have trouble with that. So I think that, that that I, I'm not neurotic, that I'm very middle class blue collar. Beer drinking, television, T- shirt jerk at home. Not someone who's ensconced in Kierkegaard or Spinoza and but my image is quite different cuz of what I've played. Do you agree with Picasso's quote, good artists copy, but great artists steal, and if so, who have you stolen from? Oh, I've stolen from the best. I mean, I've stolen from, from Bergman. I've stolen from Groucho. I've stolen from Chaplin. I've stolen from Keaton. From from Martha Graham. From Fellini. I mean, I, I'm shameless thief. At what point did you begin to note that the character that you played in some of your films have become a pop culture phenomenon, i. e ., that's such Woody Allen dialogue? And does that flatter you or do you find it annoying? No, I've never found it as the problem. If, if, if you found it, you've found something that I've never found. I, I've never felt and I don't say this with any bitterness, or anger, or disappointment cuz it's not something that I was interested in. I've never influenced anybody, to the best of my knowledge, in any way. So, when I see people making films, they make them like Scorsese makes them, they make them like Spielberg makes them, they make them like Stanley Kubrick made them. I make my films for my own enjoyment, my own therapy. I'm not familiar with the phenomenon that the, the questioner is posing. You don't think that the, the modern romantic comedy, however poorly done it is, at least owes to some degree to your invention in the 70s. The relationship, sort of modern man and woman comedy. If it is, I don't see it. I, I, didn't see anything revolutionary about it at that time. So, so I, I don't. Is there any possibility you could make another movie with Diane Keaton. I've got them all. [ COUGH ] Yes there would be. I mean, I wou -, you know, if there was an idea for Keaton and me, or I had an idea that would be great for her. She'd be the first person that I would call. And we're very good friends and we [ COUGH ] love to work together. There just hasn't been anything that's occurred to me that would be good for us, but, you know, would be a pleasure to work with her again. We love to work with each other. Sheila Levine, Simi Valley, California. How is it that Woody Allen just gets better and better looking the older he gets? Well, it's nice of her to say that. You know, I probably started very bad, when I was younger. And anything that happens is registered as an improvement. You've worked with everyone. But has anyone ever said, no thanks, I'll pass? Many people have. There's a myth that all I do is call up any actor or actress and they drop whatever they're doing and work with me. Nothing could be farther from the truth. I don't like to name names here, but there've been actors and actresses that have passed because the money was not enough. Passed because they didn't like the script that I sent them. So, I've, yes I have been turned down any number of times. Now I've had a good many acceptances. But it has certainly not been a perfect record by any means. I never ever hold that against anyone who, it never occurred to me to. I offered Sean Penn three movies before he did Sweet and Lowdown. I've offered other people, you know, that, I, I have no problem with that at all. You could turn down my movies, a dozen times and if I have a part that's good for you, I'll always offer it to you and hope for the best. Do you have a dream project, a script sitting somewhere waiting to made, made into a film, just waiting for the right producer or the right actor? No, I, I don't, I mean, I, I finish a thing, that's why I said blue collar before I finish a movie. And then I sit around for a couple of days and, you know, and I think, what the hell am I doing? You know, it's boring and I start working on something else and I try and come up with a new idea. What are those couple of days when you're finished a project, actually like? I'm trying to figure out what it is I'm supposed to be doing to enjoy myself and unwind, having finished a project. So I finish a project, let's say, on a Friday or a Monday. And, and I go home and I think, well, this is great. I finished and now I can, and then I can't complete the sentence. And I, I think, well, what do I wanna do? Well, I wanna practice my instrument. And I'd like to write. These are the things I enjoy doing. 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