--- description: Not what you might expect title: Here's What Planned Parenthood's Cecile Richards Said to David Koch image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt5ef123afb57b5d33/6987ec545f570f299fb1940a/cecile-richards-time-100.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 ---  * [Politics](/section/politics/) ## Politics Update your preferences in [Account Settings](/account/preferences/) Close * [TIME 100 Gala](/tag/time-100-gala/) ## TIME 100 Gala Update your preferences in [Account Settings](/account/preferences/) Close # Here's What Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards Had to Say to David Koch  by [Charlotte Alter](/author/charlotte-alter/)  ## Charlotte Alter Update your preferences in [Account Settings](/account/preferences/) Close Senior Correspondent Apr 22, 2015 4:29 PM CUT  Cecile Richards attends the Time 100 Gala held at Jazz at Lincoln Center in New York City on April 21, 2015. Cecile Richards attends the Time 100 Gala held at Jazz at Lincoln Center in New York City on April 21, 2015.Clint Spaulding—Patrick McMullan/Sipa USA  by [Charlotte Alter](/author/charlotte-alter/)  ## Charlotte Alter Update your preferences in [Account Settings](/account/preferences/) Close Senior Correspondent Apr 22, 2015 4:29 PM CUT When Planned Parenthood president Cecile Richards met well-known donor to conservative causes David Koch at the Time 100 gala Tuesday night, she didn’t bring up their divergent views on social issues — instead, she praised him for his commitment to criminal justice reform. Richards told the billionaire industrialist during a conversation with TIME that she was “grateful for what you’re doing in criminal justice,” and Koch answered that reform was “well-needed.” As well as pledging to spend nearly a billion dollars to elect conservative candidates in the 2016 elections, Koch and his brother Charles have recently stepped up their efforts to lobby for prison reform. Mark Holden, senior vice president and general counsel at Koch Industries, [told TIME in January](http://time.com/3686797/charles-koch-criminal-justice/ "undefined") that the issue was “sweeping in a lot of unusual, non-traditional allies, and I think it’s a good thing.” Koch also told Richards the story of how he got involved with philanthropy. After surviving a [plane crash,](http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/video/david-koch-plane-crash-helped-change-life-27598921 "undefined") he said, he realized that “this is a spiritual experience and I’m going to spend the rest of my life doing philanthropic projects.” The 2015 TIME 100 honoree also [told TIME why he likes ](http://time.com/3830670/david-koch-scott-walker-presidential-2016/ "undefined")Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, reinforcing the notion that the Republican presidential hopeful might be the favored candidate of the influential brothers. ### See the Stars at the 2015 TIME 100 Gala  Kanye West and Kim Kardashian West attend the TIME 100 Gala at Jazz at Lincoln Center in New York City on April 21, 2015. Brendan McDermid—Reuters  Emma Watson attends the TIME 100 Gala at Jazz at Lincoln Center in New York City on April 21, 2015. Andrew Toth—FilmMagic/Getty Images  Julianne Moore attends the TIME 100 Gala at Jazz at Lincoln Center in New York City on Apr. 21, 2015. 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