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In a new interview, the queen of pop says her millions of Instagram followers lent her a hand — by letting her know that her music had leaked online_ by [Sarah Begley](https://time.com/author/sarah-begley/) ## Sarah Begley Mar 9, 2015 2:16 PM UTC  Kanye West and Madonna attend the 57th Annual GRAMMY Awards - Backstage at The Staples Center on February 8, 2015 in Los Angeles, California. Kanye West and Madonna attend the 57th Annual GRAMMY Awards - Backstage at The Staples Center on February 8, 2015 in Los Angeles, California.Jason Kempin—WireImage/Getty Images by [Sarah Begley](https://time.com/author/sarah-begley/) ## Sarah Begley Mar 9, 2015 2:16 PM UTC Madonna seems to think she has finally met her match in Kanye West, who collaborated on her new album [_Rebel Heart_](http://time.com/3735645/review-madonna-rebel-heart/), out Tuesday. “Kanye is the new Madonna,” [she told the New York _Daily News_](http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/exclusive-madonna-talks-new-album-rebel-heart-kanye-west-article-1.2141150). “Kanye is the black Madonna.” Surprisingly, Madonna was not comparing their ego or talent, but their shared ability to polarize and upset the masses. “We’re comrades in the envelope-pushing genre.” The singer doesn’t seem to be prepared to stop pushing envelopes anytime soon, but she is hurt by recent criticism that her style is age-inappropriate—particularly an outfit worn to the Grammys that revealed her butt. “Mostly I hear it from women,” she said. “I feel I should be hearing support—like, ‘Good for you.'” \[[_New York Daily News_](http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/exclusive-madonna-talks-new-album-rebel-heart-kanye-west-article-1.2141150)\] ```json [{"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","@id":"https://time.com/3737136/black-madonna/","mainEntityOfPage":{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https://time.com/3737136/black-madonna/"},"headline":"Madonna Says Kanye West Is 'The Black Madonna'","datePublished":"2015-03-09T14:16:09.000Z","dateModified":"2026-08-04T07:59:44.525Z","description":"The two collaborated on her new album, Rebel Heart","url":"https://time.com/3737136/black-madonna/","keywords":["Music","Kanye West","Madonna"],"thumbnailUrl":"https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt10c7cf6821105a90/698782bde20a872708a85796/madonna-kanye.jpeg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=1200:675&height=675","author":[{"@type":"Person","name":"Sarah Begley","jobTitle":null,"url":"https://time.com/author/sarah-begley/"}],"articleSection":"Entertainment","image":[{"@type":"ImageObject","url":"https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt10c7cf6821105a90/698782bde20a872708a85796/madonna-kanye.jpeg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=1200:675&height=675","width":1200,"height":675,"headline":"The 57th Annual GRAMMY Awards - Backstage And Audience","caption":"The 57th Annual GRAMMY Awards - Backstage And Audience","creditText":"Jason Kempin—WireImage/Getty Images","representativeOfPage":true}],"publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"Time","url":"https://time.com/","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","url":"https://time.com/images/logo.png","width":528,"height":156},"foundingDate":"March 3, 1923","sameAs":["https://www.facebook.com/time","https://www.instagram.com/time/?hl=en","https://twitter.com/time","https://www.pinterest.com/timemagazine"]}},{"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"BreadcrumbList","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"item":{"@id":"/section/entertainment/","name":"Entertainment"}},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"item":{"@id":"https://time.com/3737136/black-madonna/","name":"Madonna Says Kanye West Is 'The Black Madonna'"}}]},{"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"VideoObject","name":"Madonna: I Found Out Through Instagram That I'd Been Hacked","description":"In a new interview, the queen of pop says her millions of Instagram followers lent her a hand — by letting her know that her music had leaked online","thumbnailUrl":"https://cdn.jwplayer.com/v2/media/OvyRraBZ/poster.jpg?width=720","uploadDate":"2015-02-26T12:44:08.000Z","contentUrl":"https://cdn.jwplayer.com/manifests/OvyRraBZ.m3u8","embedUrl":"https://time.com/3737136/black-madonna/","duration":"PT1M23S","potentialAction":{"@type":"SeekToAction","target":"https://time.com/3737136/black-madonna/?jw_start={seek_to_second_number}","startOffset-input":"required name=seek_to_second_number"}}] ```