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# Sen. Gillibrand Speaks Out on Secret Service Director


by 

[Maya Rhodan](https://time.com/author/maya-rhodan/)


## Maya Rhodan


Oct 1, 2014 11:40 PM UTC

![Kirsten Gillibrand and Nancy Gibbs speak at the TIME and Real Simple's Women & Success event at the Park Hyatt on Oct. 1, 2014 in New York City.](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/bltb8ba5ee431d1b989/6986a677adae44594454546a/kirsten-gillibrand-nancy-gibbs3.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=3:2)

Kirsten Gillibrand and Nancy Gibbs speak at the TIME and Real Simple's Women & Success event at the Park Hyatt on Oct. 1, 2014 in New York City.

Kirsten Gillibrand and Nancy Gibbs speak at the TIME and Real Simple's Women & Success event at the Park Hyatt on Oct. 1, 2014 in New York City.Larry Busacca—Getty Images for Time Inc.

by 

[Maya Rhodan](https://time.com/author/maya-rhodan/)


## Maya Rhodan


Oct 1, 2014 11:40 PM UTC

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand said she wasn’t surprised by the resignation of Julia Pierson, the first woman to head the Secret Service, who stepped down Wednesday after the public learned of a number of potential threats that slipped past the President’s security detail.

“Obviously there was a massive failure that needed to be taken responsibility for,” Gillibrand said Wednesday during an interview with TIME managing editor Nancy Gibbs at the _Women and Success_ event hosted by TIME and Real Simple. “But I do find that women are often eager to take responsibility for things… inevitably, if someone resigns, it’s always the woman.”

The junior Senator from New York has been speaking candidly about issues women face in the workplace and beyond since the release of her book, [_Off the Sidelines_](http://offthesidelines.org/)_._

“I think for a lot of us, we feel deeply responsible for how our teams are run, how our businesses are run,” Gillibrand said.

_Additional reporting by Eliana Dockterman and Charlotte Alter._

### PHOTOS: Go Behind the Scenes with Joe Clancy, the New Director of the Secret Service

![Barack Obama, Reggie Love](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blte6c282562d7e5e8d/6986a717e53abab0a64d4c76/joe_clancy_4.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp)

Clancy, left, crosses Pennsylvania Avenue with President Barack Obama, and Obama's aide Reggie Love, rear, while walking back to the White House in Washington D.C., on March 1, 2010. Charles Dharapak—AP

![President Barack Obama departs Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland.Photo by Brooks Kraft/Corbis](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt51a56d1c37e3430b/6986a716f983e76fd40500b5/joe_clancy_2.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp)

Clancy holds the door for Barack Obama as the President departs Andrews Air Force Base in Md. on Feb. 12, 2009. Brooks Kraft—Corbis

![President Barack Obama greets supporters at the airport Fort Meyers, Florida.Photo by Brooks Kraft/Corbis](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt1736b9ea0334dfb8/6986a717810bbb33cbc93ca3/joe_clancy_3.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp)

President Barack Obama greets supporters at the Fort Meyers airport in Florida, as Clancy stands watch behind the President's left shoulder, Feb. 10, 2009. Brooks Kraft—Corbis

![Obama Inauguration](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/bltd07ee3e49037b387/6986a718e53aba11154d4c7a/joe_clancy_5.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp)

Blink and you might miss him, but here's Clancy again, flanking President Obama and first lady Michelle Obama as they wave to crowds along the inaugural parade route in Washington D.C. on Jan. 20, 2009. Charles Dharapak—AP

![Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, Sasha Obama, Malia Obama, Joseph Clancy](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt7656f4423ffcdaa6/6986a71dadae44d0ce545578/ap2288038595452.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp)

Clancy is seen speaking over the radio into his palm mic as he glances in the camera's direction as President Barack Obama and his family walk back to the White House after attending St. John's Episcopal Church in Washington D.C. on Oct. 11, 2009. Susan Walsh—AP


![U.S. President Barack Obama and British Prime Minister David Cameron Marine One arrive in Toronto](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt46df564045c0c5de/6986a71835ba6f7cb1c04393/joe_clancy_7.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp)

Clancy braves the rain as umbrella-carrying President Barack Obama and British Prime Minister David Cameron walk from Marine One in Toronto, after their flight from the G8 Summit to the G20 Summit on June 26, 2010. Jason Reed—Reuters

![President Barack Obama speaks at the Arizona State University commencement ceremony at Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe, ArizPhoto by Brooks Kraft/Corbis](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt6c77fa77224d19f6/6986a719d0b6f2429e3067f2/joe_clancy_8.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp)

Clancy blends in on stage as Obama speaks at the Arizona State University commencement ceremony at Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe, Ariz. on May 13, 2009. Brooks Kraft—Corbis

![President Barack Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nev., are accompanied by Col. Howard Belote as they look at solar panels at Nellis Air Force Base in NevadaPhoto by Brooks Kraft/Corbis](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/bltbc4f19eb103786b1/6986a7193617603a9b90e3e9/joe_clancy_9.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp)

Solar panels make good camouflage as Clancy and another Secret Service agent accompany the President and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid at Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada, on May 27, 2009. Brooks Kraft—Corbis


![Barack Obama](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt23f98ba1e0ab50f8/6986a719f983e701400500bc/joe_clancy_10.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp)

President Barack Obama jogs up the steps to speak at a fundraiser for the Democratic National Committee and Sen. Barbara Boxer, with Clancy watching closely from the wings, at the California Science Center in Los Angeles, April 19, 2010. Alex Brandon—AP

![US President Barack Obama \(C\) shakes han](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt456abf14fb3c1fec/6986a71acd68481d96096d50/joe_clancy_11.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp)

Eyeing those extended arms warily, Clancy keeps hold on President Barack Obama as he shakes hands with people outside of the Top Pot Doughnuts shop in Seattle on Oct. 21, 2010. Jim Watson—AFP/Getty Images

![Obama Holds Discussion On Economy At Private Home In Ohio](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt4ba47c19a0fa9b74/6986a71acd804dda36ccd295/joe_clancy_12.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp)

Clancy in the foreground, as Obama is reflected in a garage window in a backyard at the Weithman family home on Aug 18, 2010 in Columbus, Ohio. Mike Munden—Getty Images


![Barack Obama, Bill Clinton](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt46946377c5cdebf4/6986a71a13c79f12f41943e1/joe_clancy_13.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp)

Clancy scans the crowd seated just behind Obama and former President Bill Clinton as the two talk at a memorial service for Sen. Robert Byrd on July 2, 2010, at the Capitol in Charleston, WV. Charles Dharapak—AP

![President Barack Obama holds hands with daughter, Sasha, as they walk away from Marine One on the South Lawn of the White House after arriving home from their vacation in Hawaii, January 4, 2010. \(Official White House Photo by Lawrence Jackson\)This offic](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt85f474b6ef938e5d/6986a71b1eebf779143730ef/joe_clancy_14.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp)

President Barack Obama holds hands with daughter Sasha as they walk away from Marine One on the South Lawn of the White House in Washington D.C. after arriving home from their vacation in Hawaii, with Clancy facing outward nearby, on Jan. 4, 2010. Lawrence Jackson—The White House

![President Barack Obama waves as he arrives at the White House in Washington D.C. on Oct. 15, 2010.](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt895386fe1c0ec8f0/6986a71bf983e76be00500c0/joe_clancy_15.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp)

With hands folded, Clancy watches the press watching President Barack Obama wave as he arrives at the White House in Washington D.C. on Oct. 15, 2010. Nicholas Kamm—AFP/Getty Images


![President Barack Obama meets with NCTC Director Michael Leiter, center right, leadership and analysts in the Secure Video Teleconference Room at the National Counterterrorism Center in McLean, Va, Oct. 6, 2009. \(Official White House Photo by Samantha App](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/bltbaa457740f61c1b2/6986a71bcd68487098096d5a/joe_clancy_16.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp)

President Barack Obama meets with NCTC Director Michael Leiter, center right, leadership and analysts in the Secure Video Teleconference Room at the National Counterterrorism Center in McLean, Va, on Oct. 6, 2009. Samantha Appleton—The White House

![National Security Advisor General James Jones, left, and USSS Special Agent in Charge Joe Clancy coordinate arrival details by telephone for President Barack Obama's visit to Baghdad on April 7, 2009. Joined also by White House Senior Advisor David Axelr](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt02cb5942aec78eaf/6986a726cd804db940ccd2ae/3484858892_a5daaf5015_o.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp)

National Security Advisor General James Jones, left, and Clancy coordinate arrival details by telephone for President Barack Obama's visit to Baghdad on April 7, 2009. Pete Souza—The White House

![President Barack Obama talks to the media aboard Air Force One upon arrival in Springfield, ILPhoto by Brooks Kraft/Corbis](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt908aceeec5f6e050/6986a71ce53abaee2d4d4c80/joe_clancy_17.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp)

A flood of bright lights fall on Clancy and other agents as the President waves to press watching the arrival of Air Force One in Springfield, Ill. on Feb. 12, 2009. Brooks Kraft—Corbis


![Barack Obama](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt68c882466c053fb8/6986a714d0b6f2a9513067e5/joe_clancy_18.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp)

Clancy has President Barack Obama's back during a frenzied meet-and-greet with the audience after speaking about health care reform at the Patriot Center at George Mason University in Fairfax, Va. on March 19, 2010. Charles Dharapak—AP

![President Barack Obama boards Air Force One at Buckley Air Force Base in Denver, Colo., en route to Las Vegas, Nev., Feb. 18, 2010. \(Official White House Photo by Pete Souza\)This official White House photograph is being made available only for publicatio](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt60939dbe3a7c37c9/6986a71413c79f48601943d9/joe_clancy_19.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp)

Clancy stands watch as the President boards Air Force One at Buckley Air Force Base in Denver, Colo., en route to Las Vegas, Nev. on Feb. 18, 2010. Pete Souza—The White House

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