The Influencers

A Franco and Franco Film. Finally.

James and Dave Franco discuss brotherhood and making their first movie together

“You say no to a lot,” James Franco tells his brother Dave. It’s true: the younger Franco is selective about the roles he chooses, which he says is a conscious effort to pave his own path and differentiate himself creatively from his brother. But the two actors teamed up for a feature film for the first time in The Disaster Artist, directed by and starring James as the eccentric writer-director Tommy Wiseau, who helmed the iconically bad cult classic movie The Room. As the Francos explain, it took exactly the right project to bring them together.

In a conversation for TIME, the brothers Franco discuss family, the craft of movie-making and why James was nervous to ask Dave to be in his film.

—Sam Lansky

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