--- title: Rudy Giuliani Changes His Tune on Trump Campaign Collusion description: Rudy Giuliani suggested on CNN that members of the Trump campaign, though not Donald Trump, could have colluded with Russia. canonical: https://time.com/5505577/rudy-giuliani-trump-campaign-collusion/ author: Jamie Ducharme article:opinion: false article:content_tier: free article:published_time: 2019-01-17T13:09:33.000Z article:modified_time: 2026-02-23T22:31:49.753Z article:section: Politics og:title: 'I Never Said There Was No Collusion.' 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Rudy Giuliani Changes His Tune on Trump Campaign Denials  by [Jamie Ducharme](https://time.com/author/jamie-ducharme/)  ## Jamie Ducharme Ducharme is a contributor to TIME. Jan 17, 2019 1:09 PM UTC  Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani arrives to campaign for Republican Senate hopeful Mike Braun on November 3, 2018 in Franklin Township, Indiana. Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani arrives to campaign for Republican Senate hopeful Mike Braun on November 3, 2018 in Franklin Township, Indiana.Aaron P. Bernstein—Getty Images  by [Jamie Ducharme](https://time.com/author/jamie-ducharme/)  ## Jamie Ducharme Ducharme is a contributor to TIME. Jan 17, 2019 1:09 PM UTC Rudy Giuliani on Wednesday suggested that members of President Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign may have colluded with Russia – but insisted that Trump himself had no involvement. It was a marked contrast to the Trump Administration’s [repeated denials](http://time.com/5355011/stephen-colbert-trump-collusion-montage/) of any wrongdoing within the presidential campaign. “I never said there was no collusion between the campaign, or between people in the campaign,” Giuliani, Trump’s lawyer, said during an [interview with CNN’s Chris Cuomo](https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/16/politics/rudy-giuliani-cnntv/index.html). “I have no idea. I said the President of the United States. There is not a single bit of evidence the President of the United States committed the only crime you can commit here: conspired with the Russians to hack the DNC.” The former New York City mayor made his comments on _Cuomo Prime Time_ while discussing court filings that [alleged Paul Manafort shared polling data](http://time.com/5497131/paul-manafort-accused-sharing-polling-data/) with a business associate with ties to Russia in 2016. When pressed by Cuomo, Giuliani downplayed both his own past comments and those from Trump that denied any collusion within the campaign, eventually defending the President by suggesting that, if any collusion occurred, he was not aware of it. “How would you know that nobody in your campaign \[colluded\]?” Giuliani said. “As far as he knows, that’s true.” That’s a significant change from the “no collusion” line Giuliani has repeated as recently as July. At that time, Fox News contributor Guy Benson asked Giuliani, “Regardless of whether collusion would be a crime, is it still the position of you and your client that there was no collusion with the Russians whatsoever on behalf of the Trump campaign?” “Correct,” Giuliani responded. Trump has repeatedly [denied collusion with Russia](http://time.com/5361925/donald-trump-collusion-manafort-giuliani-mueller-russia/), both personally and by members of his campaign. As recently as Dec. 10, he tweeted, in all capital letters, that there had been, “NO COLLUSION.” > [](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1072095127894667265) ```json [{"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","@id":"https://time.com/5505577/rudy-giuliani-trump-campaign-collusion/","mainEntityOfPage":{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https://time.com/5505577/rudy-giuliani-trump-campaign-collusion/"},"headline":"'I Never Said There Was No Collusion.' 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