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## Video: Honoring Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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## Philip Elliott


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## Philip Elliott


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Barack Obama leans, ever so slightly, to his left as he tells students to brush aside their worries about controversy. The former President urges these high schoolers to speak up, fight for justice and emulate the work of slain civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. and let history, not headlines, judge.

“If you are speaking on behalf of social justice, then by definition there’s going to be some controversy because if it wasn’t controversial, then somebody would have already fixed it,” Obama says in[ a video scheduled to be released Wednesday](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3ZrBunSPsQ&feature=youtu.be), the 50th anniversary of King’s assassination. “Dr. King was controversial, but he studied and thought and crafted what he had to say. He knew, when he spoke, he was expressing a truth as well as he could know it.”

Obama offered that message during a Monday meeting with students from Washington’s Ron Brown College Preparatory High School, the city’s all-male public high school that in 2016 grew out of the President’s effort to empower young men from minority backgrounds. TIME got an early look at the resulting video, which the Obama Foundation plans to release Wednesday.

Rep. John Lewis, whom Obama credits with drawing him into public life, joined the nation’s first black president for the conversation about King and civil rights. Lewis, a King friend and a civil rights icon who was almost killed during the Blood Sunday march in Selma, Alabama, is the last living speaker from King’s 1963 March on Washington.

“There were some people who suggested my speech was too extreme, it was too radical,” Lewis tells the students. “But I felt what I had to say was important to be said: Black people in the South couldn’t register to vote simply because of the color of their skin.”


In the black-and-white video, also Lewis speaks of a former Ku Klux Klan member who beat him in 1961 but sought him out years later to seek forgiveness. “That’s the power of the way of peace and love,” Lewis says. “You respect the dignity and the worth of every human being.”

Since leaving office in January 2017, Obama has largely kept a low profile in keeping with tradition. As part of his foundation, he relocated the elements of his White House efforts to narrow the opportunity gaps between young white men and young minority men. Monday’s session was part of that effort, now known as My Brother’s Keeper Alliance.

“Being on the right side of history isn’t always popular. And it isn’t always easy,” Obama tells Lewis in the video. “You don’t know when things are going to break your way. You don’t know whether your labors will deliver.” But, Lewis counters, “When you see something that is not right, not fair, not just you have a moral obligation to do something, to say something. Dr. King inspired us to do just that.”


## Transcript

[ MUSIC ] I don't think I ever asked you directly where you were when you heard that Dr. King had been shot. Mr. President, on April fourth, 1968, I was in Indianapolis, Indiana, campaigning for Robert Kennedy. He was organizing a rally and it was Robert Kennedy that announced to the group that Dr. King had been assassinated. Yeah I remember the footage. I have some Some very sad news for all of you and I think sad news for all of our fellow citizens and people who love peace all over the world. At this [ INAUDIBLE ] there's a park. It's called King Kennedy Park. I have not been back to that spot In the 58 years but I'm going back there in the next day or so.

Just to let you know John was one of my inspirations to get into public life. So I thought this would be a good opportunity to connect the people who inspired me with the next generation of Of young leaders who are going to be doing outstanding things themselves. I'm sorry about the assassination of Dr. King. How do you cope with his assassination? Well, it was a very sad and dark time for me. He was my leader. He was my inspiration. But When he was assassinated, I said to myself, I said listen self, you cannot get down. You got to pick them up and keep going. And that's what I've tried to do.

The thing a regret I think more than anything else, I probably didn't spend enough time with him and learning from him. I thought he would be around For a long time. [ MUSIC ] That there's this sense of urgency that we have. Growing up now I know that a lot of the things that we do and what we say, it could possibly come with consequences. I've seen that through your work as being a president. Your work as being a congressman and then also a protester as well. Seeing Selma and then also documentaries about what you and the other protesters and historical figures had to do to make sure we have what we have right now.

Without that, we wouldn't be sitting here having this type of conversation. So, knowing that, I feel motivated to go out Say and do what I believe. And you know, know that there may be consequences that comes with it. Because I know something good could out of it. And in what way can being controversial be a benefit and a disadvantage? That's a great question. In 1963, I was 23 years old and I was one of the speakers at the March on Washington. [ MUSIC ] I spoke. You're the only living speaker left, aren't you? Only one, out of the ten people. I spoke, Dr. King spoke, number ten, I spoke number six.

And there was some people who suggested that my speech was too extreme, it was too radical. but I felt what I had to send was important to be said. Black people in the South couldn't register to vote because of the color of their skin. There are some places where people still had to boycott [ UNKNOWN ] bus [ BLANK_AUDIO ] [ INAUDIBLE ] on the job. If you are speaking on behalf of social justice, then by definition there's gonna be some controversy because Were a white waited and we were attacked by members of the Klan. They beat us and left us lying in a pool of blood. Many years later this member of the Klan was in his 70s and his son was in his 40s came my office and said Mr.

Lewis. [ MUSIC ] I've been a member of the Klan. I'm one of the people that beat you and your seat mate. I want to apologize. Will you accept my apology? Your son started crying. He started crying, and I said I accept your apology. He said will you forgive me? I said I forgive you. The two of them hugged me. I hugged them back, the three of us crying. That's the power of real peace and love. Isn't alway popular. No. And it isn't always easy. And you don't know when things are going to break your way. You don't know whether your labors will deliver. I said to young people, especially students, I said when you see something that is not right.

Not fair, not just, we have a moral obligation to do something. To say something. And Dr. King inspired us to do just that. [ MUSIC ]

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