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# Susan Sarandon Says Paul Newman Once Gave Her Part of His Salary So She Would Get Equal Pay

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## Cady Lang


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## Cady Lang


Mar 9, 2018 5:47 PM UTC

[Susan Sarandon](http://time.com/5112426/susan-sarandon-sunglasses-sag-awards-red-carpet-fashion-2018/) says that her former co-star, the late [Paul Newman](http://content.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1845133,00.html), once gave her part of his salary so that she would get equal pay to him.

In an interview with [_BBC 5_](http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43330356), Sarandon shared a story about how Newman, who starred opposite her in 1998’s _Twilight_, opted to take a pay cut after he heard that she was being paid less than him and another male actor.

“Emma Stone once came forward and said she got equal pay, because her male stars insisted upon it and gave up something of theirs,” Sarandon said. “That happened to me with Paul Newman at one point, when I did a film with him ages ago. They said it was ‘favored nations,’ but they only meant the two guys. He stepped forward and said, ‘Well I’ll give you part of mine,’ So, yeah, he was a gem.”

Sarandon also discussed her thoughts on the [current movement to stop sexual misconduct in Hollywood](http://time.com/5189945/whats-the-difference-between-the-metoo-and-times-up-movements/) during her interview. While Sarandon said that she thinks there will “always be a casting couch,” she hopes that the dialogue happening now will mean that exchanges are consensual and safe.

“I think what will go away is the unwanted exchange,” she said. “But I think that giving yourself sexually, or being drawn to power and wanting to have sex with someone that’s in power, is also a choice. What we don’t want to have is being exploited and have the Harvey Weinstein’s of the world holding it over your head and holding it over your project. That is the most despicable.”


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[ MUSIC ] We can't all be ****. We can't all be asking for it. I am here to give you permission to be angry. This reality might not have to be our reality anymore. I felt this crushing sense of powerlessness. This is the time to take my power back. Here's my story. Uber promises. Investigation into sexual harrassment. Fox News cutting its ties with Bill O'Reilley. I felt it was my duty for the women who are silent to be brave. It's okay to stand up for yourself. Taylor Swift appearing in court today. Harvey Weinstein, the New York- People forget a lot that there's a human behind this. Someone who was very hurt and wronged.

[ MUSIC ] [ CROSSTALK ] I always thought maybe things could change for my daughter. I never thought things could change for me. [ MUSIC ] Honestly, I was furious. I have had a man grope me in front of multiple collegues and I was tired of wondering if it was something I wore, I was tired of wondering if it was a vibe I was giving off and when I talked to other women they were furious too

>> I felt that if I can speak out, may be if I just stand up then someone else would stand up with me

>> There wasn't a place For us to report these experiences. But I sure did talk about it a lot over the years. The least I could do was actually tell my own story and validate theirs for them in a way, just as I was hoping someone much bigger than me would help validate my story. And I knew that other women Would continue to apple for jobs there and that made me feel really uncomfortable. I was afraid of the retaliation, I know the power of patriarchy. I know what men can do when their angry. They did everything that they could to prevent me from raising my concerns further. They asked me if there were other girls, maybe that he has done this too and can I go get them.

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The feeling of being humiliated as a woman And there's a point you think is it my fault? For so long I went around harboring this ridiculous belief that because I was a non white woman in my 20s, it was expected that I would have to be treated this way. We don't have to just live like this. Few things could change from my daughter I never thought things could change from me. I'm here to give you permission to be angry, people are afraid specially women where conditioned since birth to be polite. To be nice, to be kind, to be liked to not make waves. ****. We can't all be crazy, we can't all be ****, we can't all be asking for it.

And I'm telling you that all the people who stand up, all the people who speak out you are teaching people how to treat and you should not be shamed for that. The shame is not ours to hold, the shame is on perpetrator. Me Too can be a conversation starter or it can be the whole conversation. It took away the power from the predator. And placed the power on the victim. And maybe, just maybe we would be able to get a glimpse at the magnitude of this problem. The amount of people sharing the stories with me is so intense. People that were complete strangers reached out to tell very personal stories.

It's What they did with this and they did a lot and not only in France in Hong kong japanese. The most months

>> I feel like the day that I spoke up and I said you are a sexual harasser I changed

>> some of the. Things in the night. [ FOREIGN ]. It's an honor to be the person that hey I spoke up about this. I took on the risk. And I was very humbled and I was very proud. I'm very glad now that the story has been heard. It's a direct response to that arrogance and that show of power and [ UNKNOWN ]. A sense, we won't be silenced. [ MUSIC ]

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