--- title: Ann Curry Speaks Out About Matt Lauer, Harassment at NBC description: In an interview with CBS This Morning, former Today anchor Ann Curry opens up about Matt Lauer and the "pervasive" verbal harassment at NBC canonical: https://time.com/5105633/ann-curry-interview/ author: Aric Jenkins article:opinion: false article:content_tier: free article:published_time: 2018-01-17T13:05:16.000Z article:modified_time: 2023-12-12T22:52:05.000Z article:section: U.S. og:title: Ann Curry 'Not Surprised' by Misconduct Allegations Against Matt Lauer og:description: The former Today show anchor added: "Verbal sexual harassment was pervasive" og:url: https://time.com/5105633/ann-curry-interview/ og:site_name: TIME og:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt419d927fafd80189/6988e73d86f68ed9bc6e75d7/today-ann-curry-matt-lauer.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 og:image:width: 1200 og:image:height: 675 og:image:alt: TODAY-Ann-Curry-Matt-Lauer og:type: article twitter:card: summary_large_image twitter:title: Ann Curry 'Not Surprised' by Misconduct Allegations Against Matt Lauer twitter:description: The former Today show anchor added: "Verbal sexual harassment was pervasive" twitter:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt419d927fafd80189/6988e73d86f68ed9bc6e75d7/today-ann-curry-matt-lauer.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 ---  # Ann Curry Speaks Out: 'I Am Not Surprised' by Sexual Misconduct Accusations Against _Today_ Show's Matt Lauer > Sponsored content. 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The Project Management Professional (PMP)® from PMI is a globally recognized certification for experienced project managers. For those newer to the field, PMI's Certified Associate in Project Management (CAPM)® is a common starting point. Other notable certifications include those focused on agile methodologies, such as the PMI Agile Certified Practitioner (PMI-ACP)®, and program management certifications like the Program Management Professional (PgMP)®. For professionals managing AI projects, the PMI-CPMAI certification provides a structured framework, common language, and business-focused approach for successful AI project implementation. #### How does PMI support career growth for professionals? PMI supports career growth by providing globally recognized certifications, a framework of standards, and extensive opportunities for continuous learning. Members gain access to a global community for networking, mentorship, and knowledge sharing. 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Ann Curry speaks about sexual harassment in the workplace and the hope she has for the type of change that may finally be upon us_ by [Aric Jenkins](https://time.com/author/aric-jenkins/) ## Aric Jenkins Updated: Dec 12, 2023 10:52 PM UTCPublished: Jan 17, 2018 1:05 PM UTC  Ann Curry and Matt Lauer appear on NBC News' TODAY show Ann Curry and Matt Lauer appear on NBC News' TODAY showPeter Kramer/NBC/NBC NewsWire via Getty Images by [Aric Jenkins](https://time.com/author/aric-jenkins/) ## Aric Jenkins Updated: Dec 12, 2023 10:52 PM UTCPublished: Jan 17, 2018 1:05 PM UTC Ann Curry, the former _Today_ show anchor who was publicly fired in 2012, spoke out during an interview with _CBS This Morning_ Wednesday about the verbal sexual harassment that “was pervasive” during her time at NBC, adding that she was “not surprised” by the [sexual misconduct allegations](http://time.com/5042734/matt-lauer-sexual-misconduct-statement/) that led to the ouster of her former co-anchor, Matt Lauer. When _CBS_ anchor Norah O’Donnell asked Ann Curry about Lauer, she appeared hesitant, adding that she did not want to publicly humiliate someone the way she herself was humiliated in the past. “But I can say that I… because you’re asking me a very direct question… ,” Curry continued, “I would be surprised if many women did not understand that there was a climate of verbal harassment that existed. I think it would be surprising if someone said they didn’t see that. Verbal sexual harassment was pervasive.” Many have speculated that Lauer [played a role in Curry’s departure from the _Today_ show](http://time.com/5105426/ann-curry-nbc-today-show-interview/), which resulted in Curry giving an emotional on-air goodbye in June 2012 that engendered sympathy from some viewers at the time. When _CBS_ co-anchor Gayle King asked Curry whether Lauer was the reason why she left _Today_, she replied: “I’m not the one to ask about that. I don’t know what was all behind it. I do know it hurt like hell.” She added that she has worked hard to let go. “At this point, I’m thinking, ‘Hakuna Matata.’ ” > [](https://twitter.com/CBSThisMorning/status/953611046505406466) > [](https://twitter.com/CBSThisMorning/status/953613139374956544) Curry also shared her thoughts on the [#MeToo movement](http://time.com/5030114/melinda-gates-me-too/) that is empowering women to speak up about harassment and discrimination. “I think it’s in general, overdue,” Curry said. “We clearly are waking up to a reality and injustice that has been occurring for some time. I think it will continue to occur until the glass ceiling is finally broken.” Curry’s appearance on _CBS_ was her [first TV interview since leaving rival NBC](http://time.com/5105426/ann-curry-nbc-today-show-interview/) in 2015. **Watch** [**_People Cover Story: Ann Curry –_** ](http://people.com/peopletv/video/bs/00000161-0281-d56f-abe7-a7b758850000/ann-curry/)[**I Had To Let Go**](http://people.com/peopletv/video/bs/00000161-0281-d56f-abe7-a7b758850000/ann-curry/)**_,_** **available now, on** **PeopleTV** **. Go to**[**P**](http://people.com/PEN)[**eopleTV.com**](http://eopletv.com/)**, or download the PeopleTV app** **on your favorite mobile or connected TV device.** Lauer, long one of the most prominent and highest-paid figures in morning television, was fired by NBC execs last November after a complaint resulted in an investigation that found evidence of [“inappropriate sexual bahvior.”](http://time.com/5040611/matt-lauer-fired-nbc-today-show/) Lauer later issued an apology, but said not all the allegations against him were accurate. _CBS This Morning_ – which airs in the same time slot as _Today_, but has always trailed the NBC show in ratings – had its own scandal last year, just days before Lauer was fired. Co-anchor Charlie Rose was[ suspended before ultimately being terminated](http://time.com/5032590/charlie-rose-sexual-harrassment/) after several former assistants who worked for his production company accused him of sexual harassment. 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