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Dianne Feinstein released a transcript of the Senate Judiciary Committee's meeting with Glenn Simpson, co-founder of Fusion GPS. canonical: https://time.com/5095773/glenn-simpson-trump-dossier-senate-transcript-fusion-gps/ author: Alana Abramson article:opinion: false article:content_tier: free article:published_time: 2018-01-09T20:56:19.000Z article:modified_time: 2026-08-04T07:53:45.663Z article:section: Politics og:title: Read Glenn Simpson's Senate Testimony on the Trump Dossier og:description: Simpson is the co-founder of the firm that commissioned the Trump Dossier og:url: https://time.com/5095773/glenn-simpson-trump-dossier-senate-transcript-fusion-gps/ og:site_name: TIME og:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt1850c6c311fa7857/6988f792fb4eac918d895391/trump-world-economic-forum.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 og:image:width: 5256 og:image:height: 2957 og:image:alt: Donald Trump og:type: article twitter:card: summary_large_image twitter:title: Read Glenn Simpson's Senate Testimony on the Trump Dossier twitter:description: Simpson is the co-founder of the firm that commissioned the Trump Dossier twitter:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt1850c6c311fa7857/6988f792fb4eac918d895391/trump-world-economic-forum.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 ---  # Here's the Senate Testimony of Fusion GPS's Co-Founder on the Trump Dossier > Sponsored content. 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Trump Talks With Press Before Boarding Marine One_  by [Alana Abramson](https://time.com/author/alana-abramson/)  ## Alana Abramson Jan 9, 2018 8:56 PM UTC  President Trump at the White House on Jan. 9, 2018 President Trump at the White House on Jan. 9, 2018 Evan Vucci—AP  by [Alana Abramson](https://time.com/author/alana-abramson/)  ## Alana Abramson Jan 9, 2018 8:56 PM UTC California Senator Dianne Feinstein released a transcript Tuesday of the Senate Judiciary Committee’s closed door meeting with Glenn Simpson, the co-founder of Fusion GPS which was behind the unsubstantiated dossier containing explosive allegations of President Trump’s relationship with Russia. Feinstein’s decision to release the transcript came the day after two of her Democratic colleagues, Sens. Richard Blumenthal and Sheldon Whitehouse, wrote a letter to Sen. Chuck Grassley, who chairs the Senate Judiciary committee, demanding he release the transcript. Feinstein said she released the transcript because Simpson had requested it be publicized. “The innuendo and misinformation circulating about the transcript are part of a deeply troubling effort to undermine the investigation into potential collusion and obstruction of justice. The only way to set the record straight is to make the transcript public,” Feinstein said in a statement Tuesday. A spokesman for Grassley criticized Feinstein’s decision, and said she had not consulted with Grassley. “Her action undermines the integrity of the committee’s oversight work and jeopardizes its ability to secure candid voluntary testimony relating to the independent recollections of future witnesses,” Taylor Foy, Press Secretary for the Judiciary Committee, said in a statement. Read the full testimony below. [Glenn Simpson Transcript \[Redacted\]](https://www.scribd.com/document/368777591/Glenn-Simpson-Transcript-Redacted#from%5Fembed) by [Alex Fitzpatrick](https://www.scribd.com/user/120832290/Alex-Fitzpatrick#from%5Fembed) on Scribd ## Transcript What's your reaction to democrats [ INAUDIBLE ]? Well I think it's very sad what they've done with this fake dossier. It was made up and I understand they paid a tremendous amount of money and Hillary Clinton always denied it. The democrats always denied it. And now only because it's gonna come out in a court case they said yes they did it. They admitted it. And they're embarrassed by it. But I think it's a disgrace. It's a very sad commentary on politics in this country. He was against me from before he ever knew me. He wrote a book about me before I ever met him, before I ever heard his name His poll numbers in Arizona were so low that he couldn't win and I don't blame him for leaving I think he did the right thing for himself, he would have never won. In fact, even in the primary he's way down in the primary, so he did the smart thing for himself, this way he can get out somewhat gracefully We have actually great unity in the Republican Party. Yesterday I was- [ INAUDIBLE ] No, that's okay. Look, they have to do their thing. We have great unity. You look at what happened yesterday at the meeting. We had, I guess, virtually ever senator, including John McCain. We had a great conversation yesterday, John McCain and myself.. About the military. I think we had a tremendous- I called it a love fest, it was almost a love fest, maybe it was a love fest. But we, standing ovations, there is great unity, I mean, if you look at the Democrats with Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton, that's a mess. There's great unity in the Republican Party. [ SOUND ] I was really nice to her. I respect her, I respect her family, I certainly respect La David who I by the way call La David right from the beginning just so you understand. They put a chart in front La David, says La David Johnson So I called right from the beginning. There's no hesitation. One of the great memories of all time. There was no hesitation. I think she's a fantastic woman. I was extremely nice to her, extremely respectful. I gave them authority to do what's right, so that we win. That's the authority they have. I want to win. And we're going to win, and we're beating ISIS very badly. You look at what's happened in the middle east. 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