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# How to Keep Donald Trump from Spreading His Toxic Masculinity to Future Generations

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## Video: President Trump Brags About His Election Victory During Boy Scout Jamboree Speech

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_Published 2017-07-25. President Donald Trump spoke Monday night at the 2017 Boy Scout Jamboree, where he bragged about his victory over Hillary Clinton in the 2016 campaign and bashed the media._
Description, summary, key points, chapters, key quotes, questions and transcript, where present, were produced automatically from the video or its captions and were not reviewed.

## Summary
President Trump speaks at the 2017 Boy Scout Jamboree, praising Secretary Tom Price and urging Congress to pass a vote to repeal Obamacare. He then criticizes Washington politicians and the 'swamp,' suggesting alternative terms for it. He closes by linking Scout values and the Scout Law to American values, including loyalty.

## Key points
- Trump introduces Secretary Tom Price as doing a great job as Secretary of Health and Human Services. (00:00)
- Trump says he hopes Congress gets the votes tomorrow to start the path toward killing Obamacare, which he says is really hurting people. (00:16)
- Trump warns that if the votes are not secured, he will say Tom, you're fired and get somebody else. (00:30)
- Trump says the Scouts believe in putting America first. (00:43)
- Trump describes Washington politicians and says he sees the swamp, which he calls not a good place. (00:54)
- Trump says he suggested changing the word swamp to cesspool or sewer. (01:02)
- Trump says Boy Scout values are American values and great Boy Scouts become great Americans. (01:12)
- Trump says the Scout Law describes a scout as trustworthy and loyal, and that the country could use more loyalty. (01:21)

## Chapters
- [00:00 to 00:16] Praise for Secretary Tom Price. Trump introduces Tom Price and praises his work as Health and Human Services Secretary.
- [00:16 to 00:43] Obamacare vote and firing threat. Trump urges a vote to repeal Obamacare and warns Price he will be fired if the votes fail.
- [00:43 to 01:12] Swamp remarks and America first. Trump says Scouts put America first, then criticizes Washington politicians and the swamp.
- [01:12 to 01:30] Scout values and loyalty. Trump links Boy Scout values to American values and calls for more loyalty, citing the Scout Law.

## Key quotes
- [00:30] Donald Trump: "I bet, otherwise I'll say Tom, you're fired. I'll get somebody."
- [00:43] Donald Trump: "The scouts believe in putting America first."
- [00:54] Donald Trump: "I see the swamp And it's not a good place."
- [01:12] Donald Trump: "Boys scout values are American values, and great boys scouts become great, great, Americans."
- [01:30] Donald Trump: "We could use some more loyalty I will tell you that."

## Questions this video answers
- What does Trump say about Secretary Tom Price's job performance? [00:00]
- What vote does Trump want Congress to take on Obamacare? [00:16]
- What does Trump threaten will happen to Tom Price if the votes are not secured? [00:30]
- What does Trump say about Washington politicians and the swamp? [00:54]
- How does Trump connect Boy Scout values to American values? [01:12]

## Content suitability
- politics [00:00-01:30]: Entire video is a political speech discussing Obamacare, Washington politicians and a cabinet member.
- profanity [00:54-01:02]: Insulting slang used to describe Washington, including 'cess pool' and 'sewer' as alternatives to 'swamp'.


by 

[Jennifer Siebel Newsom](https://time.com/author/jennifer-siebel-newsom-2/)


## Jennifer Siebel Newsom


Jul 27, 2017 9:57 PM UTC

President Donald Trump spoke Monday night at the 2017 Boy Scout Jamboree, where he bragged about his victory over Hillary Clinton in the 2016 campaign and bashed the media. 

by 

[Jennifer Siebel Newsom](https://time.com/author/jennifer-siebel-newsom-2/)


## Jennifer Siebel Newsom


Jul 27, 2017 9:57 PM UTC

Two years from now, we can elect a different [Congress](http://time.com/4876096/congress-fights-camp-free-health-care/). Four years from now, we can elect a new president. But can we win back the minds of young people who came of age in this moment?

A nation of children is growing up today under a toxic leader. They’re developing and learning how to be adults. They’re curious about how to find their way in this world. And they’re looking for examples of what it means to “be a man.” We’re giving them Trump. In response to Trump’s jaw-droppingly inappropriate [speech this week to the Boy Scouts](http://time.com/4872554/donald-trump-boy-scouts-presidents/), their [Chief Scout Executive](http://time.com/4876705/donald-trump-boy-scout-jamboree-speech/) attempted to right the course of Trump’s terrible role-modeling by apologizing to anyone offended by the “political rhetoric” within the speech. But when building up young people of integrity and character is at stake, apologizing for politics is not nearly enough.

It wasn’t always so bleak. As a [working mom](http://motto.time.com/4436892/best-states-working-moms/) in the business of culture change, I was hopeful that we were on the road to progress not that long ago. I thought this new generation of boys would grow up seeing girls as their equals, and I thought this new generation of girls would come of age expecting and demanding respect and seats at the tables of power — that we’d all believe strength comes in many forms, that might isn’t always right and that all people are worthy. I was hopeful that 30 years from now those same young people would be grown adults, that [women in leadership](http://time.com/4863700/women-leaders-work-equality/) would be normalized and that men taking paternity leave would make you an average father, not a hero.

Instead, a nation of children has a bully-in-chief who is such an extreme caricature of [toxic masculinity](http://time.com/4527277/jill-soloway-donald-trump-locker-rooms-toxic-masculinity/) that he focuses on his victories, his blustering power and his wealth even when talking to a crowd of Boy Scouts. Or perhaps _particularly_ when talking to young men. After all, if [President Donald Trump](http://time.com/4877098/donald-trump-white-house-spelling-misspelling/) is holding himself up as a role model, only privileged white men can follow in his footsteps.


To be sure, many Boy Scouts do not fall into this group. And regardless of demographics, many reject the President’s message of hate and selfishness. So many [Scouts (and their parents) were outraged ](http://time.com/4872107/trump-boy-scout-speech-reactions/)by Trump’s utterly inappropriate remarks the other day, and as a result, feel betrayed and alienated by an organization that they have come to love.

But I’m particularly concerned for the boys who don’t have our same reaction. The boys who say nothing about Trump’s tasteless remarks or who buy into his discriminatory rhetoric. The boys who see his bullying as an invitation to shrug off decency and community in order to get what they think is rightfully theirs. It’s this same vein of entitled thinking that could lead you to believe one [female Dr. Who](http://time.com/4860010/doctor-who-13th-doctor-jodie-whittaker/) out of 13 is too many, or that increased protections against [campus sexual assault](http://time.com/4866279/betsy-devos-attorneys-general-campus-sexual-assault/) are actually a witch hunt against men.

Sure, it’s normal as a teenager to think mostly about yourself. But that is why these boys need a role model to ask them to think beyond themselves. These boys need a role model to tell them it’s not all just about them, that they’re required to think about the greater good, that perhaps they must sacrifice their own ease to make way for someone who has had it harder. They need a role model to point out all the ways they have been lucky, and that it’s their duty given their privilege to work hard to make the world a fairer, more equitable place. They need a role model to tell them that being a good man means being kind and compassionate, empathic and caring, giving and loving.


Instead, they have a man who tells them success is determined by the size of your yacht and the length of your vacation in the South of France, deriding “some of these guys that never made 10 cents.” Instead, they have a man who uses a public stage to threaten his colleagues that they better do his bidding or he’ll say “you’re fired.” Instead, they have Trump.

Every boy has so much promise. They can become the leaders of tomorrow that we so desperately need. But we have to dig in and help them _now_. 

We all must call on the Boy Scouts to do a better job of guiding our boys into adulthood. The apology issued today is a good start, but it’s not enough. They cannot just apologize for the speech’s partisan content, when the entire message was a disavowal of their motto, which requires Scouts to “help other people at all times.”

Let’s be the healthy role models our kids desperately need. Hug your boys tonight and tell them how much you love their kindness and their compassion. Ask them what they did today to help out someone else — and thank them for it. We must inspire more in our young men and demand more of ourselves, our leaders and our cultural institutions. Our — and their — future depends on it.


## Transcript

[00:00] Secretary Tom Price is also here. Today Dr. Price
[00:04] still lives [ UNKNOWN ] helping to keep millions of
[00:05] Americans strong and healthy as our Secretary of
[00:05] Health and Human Services and he's doing a great job.
[00:16] And hopefully, he's going to get the votes tomorrow to
[00:20] start our path Toward killing this horrible
[00:24] thing known as Obama Care that's really hurting us.
[00:27] [ APPLAUSE ] By the way, you're gonna get the votes?
[00:30] They better get them, they better get them. I
[00:35] bet, otherwise I'll say Tom, you're fired. I'll get
[00:38] somebody. [ APPLAUSE ] [ SOUND ] The scouts believe
[00:43] in putting America first. [ APPLAUSE ]
[00:54] You know I go to Washington and I see all these
[00:57] politicians, and I see the swamp And
[01:02] it's not a good place. In fact today I said we ought to
[01:04] change it from the word swamp to the word cess pool
[01:09] or perhaps to the word sewer, but it's not good. Boys
[01:12] scout values are American values, and great boys
[01:16] scouts become great, great, Americans. As
[01:21] the Scout Law says, a scout is
[01:26] trustworthy, loyal. We could use some more loyalty I
[01:30] will tell you that.

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