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# How Chess Helped the Washington Attorney General File the First Lawsuit Against Trump's Travel Ban

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## Katie Reilly


Apr 26, 2017 2:25 AM UTC

Washington State Attorney General [Bob Ferguson](http://time.com/collection-post/4742678/bob-ferguson/) said his experience as an expert chess player helped his office successfully file the first state lawsuit against [President Donald Trump’s travel ban](http://time.com/4724168/trump-travel-ban-court-hearing/).

“Chess teaches you many things. It teaches you how to anticipate your opponent’s move. It teaches you to think ahead. It teaches you how to take a calculated risk,” Ferguson, who once considered a career as a professional chess player, said at the TIME 100 Gala on Tuesday. “We anticipated he was going to introduce a travel ban, so we were prepared for it. We anticipated that move, so to speak, from the President.”

In January, Ferguson’s office filed a lawsuit within 72 hours of Trump signing an executive order barring immigrants from seven predominantly Muslim countries from entering the United States. [Federal judge James Robart](http://time.com/4660428/donald-trump-federal-judge-blocks-immigration-order/) sided with the state of Washington in a February ruling, putting a temporary halt on Trump’s travel ban.

“There was a lot of uncertainty in the decision, but often in chess, you have to make decisions where the position’s complicated, but in order to win the game, you have to take a calculated risk,” Ferguson said. “It required a calculated risk to file that lawsuit when, at that time, most legal experts thought we were going to lose. That was the conventional wisdom at that point.”


Trump issued a revised travel ban in March, which was [put on temporary hold](http://time.com/4703207/travel-ban-hawaii-court-ruling-advocates/?iid=sr-link6) after a federal judge in Hawaii ruled to block the executive order. The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has agreed to [review the order in May](http://time.com/4724168/trump-travel-ban-court-hearing/).


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