--- title: Kellyanne Conway: Sean Spicer Used 'Alternative Facts' description: Kellyanne Conway said White House press secretary Sean Spicer used "alternative facts" to describe inauguration crowds canonical: https://time.com/4642689/kellyanne-conway-sean-spicer-donald-trump-alternative-facts/ author: Mahita Gajanan article:opinion: false article:content_tier: free article:published_time: 2017-01-22T16:26:05.000Z article:modified_time: 2026-10-07T07:14:24.417Z article:section: Politics og:title: Kellyanne Conway Defends White House's Falsehoods as 'Alternative Facts' og:description: Press Secretary Sean Spicer falsely said the inauguration crowd was the 'largest' ever og:url: https://time.com/4642689/kellyanne-conway-sean-spicer-donald-trump-alternative-facts/ og:site_name: TIME og:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/bltbc3fa3c2e0c72153/6988b6b32dce0150649ebfec/kellyanne-conway.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 og:image:width: 2560 og:image:height: 1440 og:image:alt: Vice President-Elect Mike Pence Speaks At Inaugural Event At D.C.'s Union Station og:type: article twitter:card: summary_large_image twitter:title: Kellyanne Conway Defends White House's Falsehoods as 'Alternative Facts' twitter:description: Press Secretary Sean Spicer falsely said the inauguration crowd was the 'largest' ever twitter:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/bltbc3fa3c2e0c72153/6988b6b32dce0150649ebfec/kellyanne-conway.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 video:duration: 01:26 video:published: 2017-01-22 section: politics topics: inauguration crowd size, White House press briefing, alternative facts, National Mall, National Park Service, protest counting, media photographs, security fencing genre: news, press briefing tones: defensive, combative, assertive emotions: defiance (high), indignation (medium), pride (medium) sentiment: negative audience: political news readers, government watchers, media consumers, voters people: Kellyanne Conway, Sean Spicer, Donald Trump organizations: White House, National Park Service content_suitability: politics [00:00-01:26]; health controversy [00:00-00:07] transcript_source: publisher captions transcript_reviewed: not applicable ---  # Kellyanne Conway Defends White House's Falsehoods as 'Alternative Facts' > Sponsored content. 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President Donald Trump‘s counselor Kellyanne Conway said White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer used “alternative facts” when he falsely called the crowds at Trump’s swearing-in ceremony “the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration."_ Description, summary, key points, chapters, key quotes, questions and transcript, where present, were produced automatically from the video or its captions and were not reviewed. ## Summary Kellyanne Conway addresses the White House's claims about the size of the crowd at Trump's inauguration, defending Press Secretary Sean Spicer's statement that it was the largest audience ever. She argues that photographs were framed to minimize the crowd and that floor coverings, fencing and magnetometers changed how the National Mall looked. She also says crowd numbers were tweeted without official counts from the National Park Service, and that the same standard applies to counting protesters. ## Key points - The speaker says the inauguration had the largest audience ever to witness an inauguration, both in person and around the globe. (00:00) - Critics of the inauguration crowd size are described as shameful and wrong. (00:07) - Photographs in one particular tweet were said to be intentionally framed to minimize the support gathered on the National Mall. (00:36) - Floor coverings were used to protect grass on the mall for the first time in the nation's history, highlighting areas where people were not standing. (00:46) - Fencing and magnetometers were extended further back, preventing hundreds of thousands of people from accessing the mall. (00:58) - Inaccurate numbers, including crowd size, were tweeted, though no one had numbers because the National Park Service does not publish them. (01:07) - The same approach applies to any attempts to count the number of protesters that day. (01:18) ## Chapters - [00:00 to 00:26] Opening claims about inauguration crowd. The speaker asserts the inauguration drew the largest audience ever and calls criticism of the crowd shameful. - [00:26 to 01:26] White House briefing on crowd and visuals. The briefing explains how photographs, mall coverings, fencing and crowd numbers were handled around the inauguration. ## Key quotes - [00:00] interviewer: "This was the largest audience to ever witness an" - [00:07] interviewer: "These attempts to lessen the enthusiasm of the" - [00:36] interviewer: "Photographs of the inaugural proceedings were" - [00:46] interviewer: "This was the first time in our nation's history" - [01:07] interviewer: "Inaccurate numbers including crowd size were also tweeted, no one had numbers." ## Questions this video answers - Why did the White House say the inauguration crowd was the largest ever? [00:00] - How were photographs of the inauguration framed, according to the speaker? [00:36] - Why were floor coverings placed on the National Mall? [00:46] - Why were crowd numbers reported without official counts? [01:07] - Will the same approach apply to counting protesters? [01:18] ## Content suitability - politics [00:00-01:26]: Contentious political messaging about the inauguration crowd and media coverage. - health controversy [00:00-00:07]: Disputed factual claims about crowd size are described as false in the title and description. by [Mahita Gajanan](https://time.com/author/mahita-gajanan/) ## Mahita Gajanan Gajanan is an editor at TIME. Jan 22, 2017 4:26 PM UTC President Donald Trump‘s counselor Kellyanne Conway said White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer used “alternative facts” when he falsely called the crowds at Trump’s swearing-in ceremony “the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration." by [Mahita Gajanan](https://time.com/author/mahita-gajanan/) ## Mahita Gajanan Gajanan is an editor at TIME. Jan 22, 2017 4:26 PM UTC President [Donald Trump](http://time.com/4642323/womens-march-washington-donald-trump-inauguration/)‘s counselor [Kellyanne Conway](http://time.com/4641016/kelly-anne-conway-memes/) said White House press secretary Sean Spicer used “alternative facts” when he falsely called the crowds at Trump’s swearing-in ceremony “the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period, both in person and around the globe.” Spicer on Saturday gave a five-minute statement to the press [riddled with falsehoods](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/21/us/politics/trump-white-house-briefing-inauguration-crowd-size.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news) and claimed photos showing clearly that the audience for Barack Obama’s 2009 inauguration was [significantly larger](http://time.com/4641381/donald-trump-inauguration-crowd/) than Trump’s on Friday was an attempt by the media to “minimize enormous support that had gathered on the National Mall.” Appearing on NBC’s _Meet the Press_, Conway staunchly defended Spicer, and said his untrue statements were “alternative facts.” When asked by host Chuck Todd why Spicer used his first appearance in front of the press to proclaim falsehoods, Conway said Todd was being “overly dramatic” about the statement. “You’re saying it’s a falsehood, and they’re giving— Sean Spicer, our press secretary, gave alternative facts to that,” she said. Todd countered Conway: “Alternative facts are not facts. They are falsehoods.” Watch the exchange below. > [](https://twitter.com/MeetThePress/status/823184384559878144) ## Transcript [00:00] This was the largest audience to ever witness an [00:02] inauguration period. Both in person and around the globe. [00:07] These attempts to lessen the enthusiasm of the [00:09] inauguration are shameful and wrong. [ INAUDIBLE ]. [00:19] [ SOUND ]. [00:26] Good evening, thank you guys for coming. I know our first [00:29] official press briefing is gonna be on Monday, but I wanted [00:32] to give you a few updates on the President's activities. [00:34] Photographs of the inaugural proceedings were [00:36] intentionally framed in a way, in one particular tweet, to [00:39] minimize the enormous support that had gathered on the [00:42] National Mall. This was the first time in our nation's history [00:46] that floor coverings have been used to protect grass in the [00:48] mall. That had the effect of highlighting any areas where [00:52] people were not standing, while in years past the grass [00:55] eliminated this visual. This was also the first time that [00:58] fencing and magnetometers went as far back on the wall [01:02] preventing hundreds of thousands of people from being [01:04] able to access the mall. As quickly as they had in [01:07] inaugurations past. Inaccurate numbers including crowd [01:11] size were also tweeted, no one had numbers. Because [01:15] the National Park Service, which controls the National [01:18] Mall, does not put any out. 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