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The story of a family's illegal cross-country drive to transport marijuana oil for their epileptic 3-year-old daughter. A look inside the quasi-legal, science free world of medical marijuana for children from TIME's Red Border Films_ by [Rory Carroll / Reuters](https://time.com/author/reuters/) ## Rory Carroll / Reuters Oct 4, 2016 7:01 AM UTC  Buildings at the site of a future marijuana farm are framed by the branches of a Joshua tree in the "green zone," an area designated by the city for the development of industrial scale marijuana cultivation, on Sept. 6, 2016 in Adelanto, Calif. Buildings at the site of a future marijuana farm are framed by the branches of a Joshua tree in the "green zone," an area designated by the city for the development of industrial scale marijuana cultivation, on Sept. 6, 2016 in Adelanto, Calif. David McNew—AFP/Getty Images by [Rory Carroll / Reuters](https://time.com/author/reuters/) ## Rory Carroll / Reuters Oct 4, 2016 7:01 AM UTC (HUMBOLDT COUNTY, Calif.) — Hezekiah Allen is a third-generation marijuana farmer in this Northern California county, where the cool coastal fog pours off the Pacific Ocean, coaxing pot plants to heights of 20 feet. The executive director of the California Growers Association trade group, Allen has long sought an end to what he calls “prohibition” and has looked forward to a day when he and the thousands of pot farmers here would no longer be outlaws. But he said he can’t bring himself to vote for Proposition 64, a referendum on California’s November ballot that would legalize cultivation, sale and recreational use of marijuana. While pot purveyors might seem to be likely Prop. 64 supporters, Allen’s ambivalence is widespread within the industry. The California Growers Association took a neutral stance after a recent poll among its 750 farmers, distributors and retailers found a split: 31 percent supported, 31 percent opposed, and 38 percent were undecided. The larger Prop. 64 debate has focused on moral, social and health consequences of legalized pot use, but growers’ concerns are more prosaic. Some fear going legit will mean too much red tape and burdensome oversight. Some fear an onslaught of big business – and competition that could wipe them out. “I don’t want to replace a criminal injustice with an economic injustice,” Allen said. Steve Dodge, the CEO of the Humboldt Growers Collective, another trade group, said he is voting against the initiative because it would allow regulatory inspections that some pot growers view as tantamount to warrantless searches. “We are asking farmers to come out from behind the curtain, but not providing the assurances they need,” he said. “This law is setting the state up for failure.” California, the sixth-largest economy in the world, already has legalized marijuana for medical use. It is the biggest producer in a U.S. market that includes 24 other states and the District of Columbia with some form of legalization. Brokerage Cowen pegs legal and illegal U.S. market at about $30 billion. The approval of recreational use on such a big scale would be a turning point. It would more than double sales in California to $6.46 billion in 2020 from the $2.76 billion in medical use receipts last year, according to a projection by market researcher New Frontier. Polls suggest the measures will pass. But growers’ concerns show it won’t be easy to move a multi-billion-dollar gray industry into the light. Growers would face tax bills and the expense of improving their farms’ ecological footprints to meet environmental regulations. And, after a five year grace period, industrial-sized farms would be allowed, a prospect that is expected to attract corporate agriculture. Some growers believe going legit would be less lucrative than selling to states where marijuana remains illegal, a calculus that could drive them further underground. **“Outlaw, not criminal”** Six hours north of San Francisco, old growth forests in what is known as the “Emerald Triangle” nurture vast marijuana production. Thousand-year-old redwoods have sheltered growers from raids by authorities since the collapse of logging here in the 60s and 70s gave rise to the illicit industry. Wearing a sweatshirt bearing a pot leaf and the slogan, “I’m an outlaw, not a criminal,” a black market grower tended to small plants bursting with buds raised in a room under high powered lights and the breeze of fans. The grower, who identified himself only as Jason B for fear of prosecution, said he wants to keep big business “out of our neighborhood.” “The reason I will vote ‘no’ on the proposition is that it will be corporate influenced and it would be a subpar product,” he said. Standing in his outdoor grove of plants that tower above him, Stephen Dillon said the Humboldt Sun Growers Guild he heads is split over Prop. 64\. Growers in the group also are concerned that it will open the industry to big agriculture, as well as taxes and penalties, he said. Dillon acknowledged some illegal growers hurt the environment, draining creeks for irrigation, pouring pesticide-laden runoff back into the water supply and creating mountains of trash on their sites. Prop. 64 would allow the state to revoke the licenses of such bad actors. But Dillon said its environmental regulations could cost $20,000 to $100,000 per farm to meet. **Doubts in Haight-Ashbury** Doubts are not confined to growers. Patrice Scott is a receptionist for Green Evaluations, a medical marijuana clinic above Amoeba Records in San Francisco’s historic Haight-Ashbury district, the epicenter of the hippie movement in the late 1960s that promoted free love, psychedelic music and pot. Scott said she will vote against Prop. 64, viewing it as a money grab by state and local governments she fears will squander the revenue. She said the medical marijuana rules, which require purchasers to obtain a card from a physician, work fine. “No one has a problem getting a card,” she said. “This is just a way for them (government) to profit.” But opposition is not universal in the industry. Some, noting a glut in pot is driving down prices, said they welcome legalization if it brings new demand. “It is just free falling,” said Marion Collamar, a Humboldt county grower who supports Prop. 64. The average price of a pound of wholesale cannabis has fallen from $2,030 in January 2016 to $1,664 in August, according to Cannabis Benchmarks, a wholesale cannabis pricing company. Chrystal Ortiz, a small farmer and operations manager for the Sun Growers Guild, said she supports Prop 64 because it would eliminate or reduce most criminal penalties, as well as prior convictions, for marijuana offenses. “Primarily black and brown underprivileged people are the ones being affected by the illegality of cannabis,” she said. _(Reporting by Rory Carroll; Editing by Peter Henderson and Lisa Girion)_ ## Transcript We don't wanna break the law. We don't wanna do this, we have to do this. Cannabis extract is illegal. And that's what my product is. I never stop thinking about the legal issues. As I cross into every state, that's breaking a lot of federal law. I don't believe that any of the law enforcement agencies want to lock out what is potentially a last treatment option for these patients. [ NOISE ] It's okay. It's okay. There still are many, many children and adults with epilepsy who can't be controlled with existing therapies. I cannot recommend using a medical marijuana product. It was worth it because it helps my daughter. If it's helping kids, why isn't it. We thought, well, why can't you do it? [ MUSIC ] [ NOISE ] [ MUSIC ] This is about as big of a piece as we'd wanna cut at once. This is our first day of harvest. [ INAUDIBLE ] in here, that's the problem. Say we get this big girl [ NOISE ] Each plant is a whole- plant extract, so we have to cut the plant. And final, so we'll kinda put the next plant about right here. So as long as we all know. The size that we're cutting for has to dry, fully dry before we're able to process it in the lab. Now you're through that. Now you can start on the next one. Here is the next one. I've got a, I've got a really nice one We stepped onto the field June 3rd. Is that your sandal? I'll fill this one up. Perfect. We planted 17 acres with an estimated 36, 000 plants. [ MUSIC ] We'll likely serve several thousand patients with this. These grow big. [ MUSIC ] Which is good. My name is Penn Madison and I am the head manager here at Stanley Brothers Social Enterprises. You need to change hands. [ LAUGH ] [ INAUDIBLE ] And we grow medical hemp. [ MUSIC ] We have a little girl, Nellie, who's two and a half. Yeah. Is that one hurting? Are you getting frustrated? Huh? She is intractable apolopsy. That's a debilitating form of epilepsy. One in 26 people will have epilepsy in their lifetime. Three million Americans have epilepsy. 50 million people world wide have epilepsy. It is one of the most common neurologic disorders. Yeah. We had no idea wether or not medical help would work. What we did know is that, everything else we had tried had not. We'd seen specialist all over the country. We tried multiple anti- epileptic drugs. Hm- mm. Yeah? I would say in the last year too we have seen an increase in children that are here from out of state. That have been brought by families to try variants of medical marijuana. [ MUSIC ] The laws in Tennessee didn't allow us to have this delivered to us there. It didn't allow this to be an option to give it to her there. [ MUSIC ] So the option of moving to Colorado to pursue medical marijuana was a viable option for us. And so we chose to do that. [ NOISE ] [ MUSIC ] We start with tissue culture plants. They'll be grown for their entire season. When they're ripe they'll be harvested. Dried. Once they're cured right they will come back to the lab for extraction. In which we will extract all of the valuable parts of the plant into a fine oil. Then that oil is used to create specific dilutions of a dietary supplement. That they'll be called Charlotte's Web. [ MUSIC ] At nine months old she was sleeping 20 hours a day. Kids that age like to grab things. Swat at things. We would have things hanging over her she would have no interest. Finally at about her nine month appointment. After we were able to find a neurologist to see us relatively quickly. He was fairly confident that [ INAUDIBLE ] spasms. She was barely able to grow in function, because she was having upwards of 200 seizures a day. Seizures are incredibly debilitating but there's also a lot of other things that can happen with a cognitive problems. Depression, anxiety [ MUSIC ] Hello! Hello! [ UNKNOWN ] Three times a day. [ UNKNOWN ] I see patients here two days a week on Tuesdays and Thursdays, and these are the consultation days, and also days where people come to pick up their medicine. In order to be ready for those two days, I spend. It's probably about another four days in lab making oil. Or with my brothers at the girl facilities. He was our first state licensee for the charlotte's web products. And it's fitting that he is a parents of a child with [ UNKNOWN ] syndrome. I am involved in this industry because of my daughter who is ten years old now and her name is Emily. Who has intractable epilepsy. [ NOISE ] It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. At her worst times, she's had a hundred to a hundred and fifty seizures a day. We've been told by a couple of doctors that we have to go home and enjoy our daughter as much as we can cause there is really not much hope left or anything else that will help so I spent a lot of time in California trying to find this medicine and you know I didn't have a lot of luck . >> We started doing our own research to see. What type of side effects? But why not try it. I just put my daughter on a medication that could've killed her. If it doesn't work, you put it to rest and we can move on with our lives. But if it does, nothing else has. Not everybody can come to Colorado, so there has to be something. Else we can do. My daughter was not doing good. She was having seizures, and I knew that there could be something that helps her, but I can't bring it to California, or I can't transport it. so it was very frustrating. It's okay. In the state where we live they do have a medical marijuana program. However, even if you were able to get through all of the bureaucratic hoops they have set up, the appropriate product for our daughter is not available. [ MUSIC ] Here I am, desperate father. I have to help my daughter. I need to have this for my daughter. So what is it gonna take? One thing led to another. How're you guys doing? [ INAUDIBLE ] We're doing okay. I am now the director of the foundation's California chapter. And that was the only way to do this legally. [ MUSIC ] I wish. When Emily started having seizures, ten years ago, somebody in this position. Existed. Where somebody would sit down across from me and say, this is what failed for people. This is what didn't. This is what others are doing. We were scared, one, to pick up and move and leave everything behind, but we weren't sure it was gonna work. Even in Colorado, the waiting list for Charlotte's Web oil is quite long, so it's not like you can just. Fly or drive to Colorado, pick it up and come home. Which apart from violating federal and state laws, It's just you can't do it. In California we found, an apartment, that we could do a short term rental. When we started giving her the marijuana in the first couple of doses even, we saw changes. She became more verbal. She became a lot more attentive. She was a lot more awake than she had been. [ LAUGH ] After the summer we wanted to give a longer time for our trial. So we made a decision that we were going to. Bring a supply back with us. [ MUSIC ]. They were able to identify a supplier in California my understanding who had what appears to be a very good product of oil high in CBD and they didn't want to fly with it, so apparently drove cross country to get their child this medication. Well I never stopped thinking about the legal issues. As I cross into every state I tried to make sure to be very careful. Any time I was tired I took a break. My daughter is doing great. She's now down to about 20 a day. She's far more interactive with the world around her. She has far more enjoyment. She's not playing beside the world, she's playing in the world where she lives now. And that, to me, is everything. Fortunately, that child is doing quite well. And they've gone through a huge pilgrimage to get that oil and, what appears to be, help their daughter. [ MUSIC ] I actually haven't heard anything about you know, negative potential side effects in the media. And I think it's a really important thing for parents to know is this is not risk free. It's not something I told them to do but when they said they were determined to do it, I was supportive, as their physician, to say listen, I will be here to guide you on helping to adjust the therapy and monitor the other drugs and, and the girls' epilepsy. Overall, at least so far, our experience here at Children's Colorado has been that, that only about a third of families are really reporting that they see much of an improvement in their children. And of those children when we look at brain waves, none of those are we really seeing the kind of EEG change that we would expect from a really effective medication. We also don't understand how marijuana products will interact with other medicines these children are on. Concerning things that we have seen in general, her seizures have gotten worse. Severe enough to require them to go into our intensive care unit. We absolutely don't have the scientific data and I think if I could make one point to the parents, it is that you need science. The other concern with the artisanal products is that we don't always know what's in them. They vary from batch to batch, they vary from grower to grower. [ MUSIC ] Unfortunately, we're giving it out to large numbers of very vulnerable people like children. Without knowing what the correct dose it. Without knowing what kind of epilepsy it's going to work for. Most of my critics, especially in the medical field, are critics that are criticizing lack of research. I blame them. That's their job. You're a researcher. You're a scientist. You're a doctor. Why don't you research this? These procedures are gaining. Something stronger. The schedule one listing for marijuana has made it much more difficult to do research on marijuana, there is no question about that. Really all hemp products lie in a gray area. We are faced with a bit of a moral dilemma. We do have some legal area to operate here. But at the same time, that's up for interpretation. [ MUSIC ] The supply is gonna run out, because we only brought back six months. There are options. Realm of Caring is talking about challenging the law and sending medication across state lines. Right, one more on the end and let's get it there. This product, this fall. Coming from hemp regulations, this will be our first time to actually be able to ship this to patients across the country. If it works, it would make a huge difference because then we could have it delivered right to our house. Cannabis [ UNKNOWN ] and that's what my product is. The last. Drug enforcement agency position that I read stated that hemp products made for human consumption, which have any detectable THC in them, are technically a violation of federal law. Now, however, they go on to say that they realize that all of these products exist throughout grocery store shelves throughout America. At this point in time I don't feel like the legal landscape has us such that people are going to come in with guns and handcuffs and try and shut down something that is providing hope and options for people. We don't want to break the law. We don't want to do this, we have to do this. How can kids not get what they need? I mean anyone you talk to about it, it's like, it's ridiculous. If it's helping kids, why isn't it. Reba like why can't you do it? 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