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# Clinton and Sanders Camps Clash on Details of New Debates

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## Video: What It's Like to Live in Iowa Ahead of the Caucuses

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_Published 2016-01-29. What It's Like to Live in Iowa Ahead of the Caucuses_
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## Summary
Iowa residents describe their experience of living in the state ahead of its caucuses. A brief run of campaign ad audio from several presidential candidates opens the video. Speakers say they receive many campaign calls and ads, and find them annoying and unhelpful. They say voters are tired of the process and look forward to other states receiving the attention.

## Key points
- Watching the campaign ads is described as crazy and annoying rather than informative or energizing. (00:29)
- One speaker says they probably see 60 to 70 ads a day. (00:38)
- A speaker says they receive phone calls from candidates and from various political parties. (00:42)
- Speakers say they suffer through the ads rather than feeling excited to be part of the process. (00:45)
- A speaker says the mute button is very helpful and they fast forward through the ads. (00:52)
- One speaker says you are inundated with ads and there is no way you cannot see them. (01:01)
- Speakers say people are getting sick of the process and look forward to New Hampshire and South Carolina receiving the ads. (01:09)
- A speaker says there is excitement about Iowa being where the caucuses start, but there is such a thing as too much. (01:09)

## Chapters
- [00:00 to 00:38] Campaign ads and candidate soundbites. Clips of several presidential candidates are played over music before a speaker describes the ads as crazy and annoying.
- [00:38 to 01:09] Daily volume of ads and calls. Speakers describe seeing dozens of ads and receiving phone calls daily and say they mute or fast forward through them.
- [01:09 to 01:36] Voter fatigue and looking ahead. Speakers say people are tired of the process and look forward to other states taking over the attention.

## Key quotes
- [00:29] Unidentified Iowa resident: "It's crazy. It's annoying."
- [00:38] Unidentified Iowa resident: "It's not very helpful."
- [00:52] Unidentified Iowa resident: "The mute button is very, very helpful."
- [01:01] Unidentified Iowa resident: "You're inundated, there's no way you can not see them."
- [01:09] Unidentified Iowa resident: "At this point, people are getting sick of the process."

## Questions this video answers
- How do Iowa residents feel about the campaign ads? [00:29]
- How many ads do residents see each day? [00:38]
- How often do residents receive calls from candidates and parties? [00:42]
- How do residents cope with the volume of political ads? [00:52]
- How do residents feel about Iowa's role in the caucus process? [01:09]

## Content suitability
- profanity [00:00-01:36]: No strong profanity is present in the transcript; the content is mild.


by 

[Sam Frizell](https://time.com/author/sam-frizell/)


## Sam Frizell


Updated: Dec 13, 2023 7:27 PM UTCPublished: Jan 30, 2016 9:23 PM UTC

What It's Like to Live in Iowa Ahead of the Caucuses 

by 

[Sam Frizell](https://time.com/author/sam-frizell/)


## Sam Frizell


Updated: Dec 13, 2023 7:27 PM UTCPublished: Jan 30, 2016 9:23 PM UTC

Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders’ campaigns have agreed to meet for four new debates over the coming months—in theory. 

But major kinks remain as the campaigns work out their disagreements. Sanders is seeking a firm commitment from the Hillary Clinton campaign for debates in March, April, May, according to a person familiar with the negotiations. Meanwhile, the Clinton campaign wants Sanders to attend a debate next week this person said. 

“We think it should be an orderly process, and not an ad hoc process,” said Tad Devine, Sanders’ campaign strategist. “We have to agree to them not just theoretically.” He added that it would not be acceptable for Clinton to be able to walk into “a state where she’s behind and says she wants to have a debate.”

**Read More:** [_Follow Clinton and Sanders Supporters as They Knock on Doors in New Hampshire_](http://time.com/4184593/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-new-hampshire/)

The Sanders campaign does not want to meet in a debate next week in New Hampshire unless it has a firm commitment from the Clinton campaign, which has so far declined to settle on strict dates in March, April and May that have been proposed. A Clinton campaign official did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the ongoing discussions. 

Sanders wants to ensure he will be on a national stage with Hillary Clinton in the coming months, no matter what the outcome of the primary contests in Iowa and New Hampshire. A longer debate schedule would mean that his campaign will have a longer timeline to remain in the race against Clinton.

Clinton, meanwhile, who is an adroit debater, is hoping to see Sanders on a debate stage in New Hampshire ahead of the primary there, where the Vermont senator has taken a wide lead. But Clinton wants to avoid a drawn-out primary fight against Sanders. 


Clinton campaign has agreed in principle to future debates but has not locked down a commitment. Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta said Saturday afternoon that the campaigns should hold one debate in Flint, Michigan, the site of a recent water crisis. “We should use the spotlight of the presidential campaign to keep the focus on Flint, and to lift up the historic underlying issues that Flint and too many other predominantly low-income communities of color across America are struggling with every day,” Podesta said.

**Read more**: [_The Tale of Two Democratic Rallies in Dubuque_](http://time.com/4201067/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-iowa-rallies/)

Later on Saturday, the Podesta said in a statement that “there is nothing worse than a debate about debates” and exhorted Sanders’ campaign. “Enough of the games,” Podesta said. “The Sanders campaign proposal has been met in all respects.”

A Sanders aide disputed that characterization. “They have not agreed to our dates,” the aide said. “Set the dates and we’re ready to go.”


The Democratic Party said earlier this week that it would not sanction the debate in New Hampshire next week, though that position may not hold if the campaigns make other arrangements. The Democratic National Committee has previously been open to adding debates after New Hampshire votes. A party official did make clear, however, that the party would not support the New Hampshire _Union Leader_, which unilaterally announced a debate time and place next Thursday with MSNBC, as a debate sponsor.


## Transcript

[00:00] Marco Rubio, all over the place
[00:04] on immigration. Bernie Sanders didn't hesitate
[00:08] to say no to. [ MUSIC ] Come
[00:12] to America. Rand Paul I'm Bernie
[00:16] Sanders. Marco Rubio That's why I'm
[00:21] running for president. I Bernie Sanders.
[00:25] Doctor Ben Carson. Watching all the ads right now,
[00:29] I wish I could say that it's informative, it's energizing.
[00:33] It's crazy. It's annoying. [ LAUGH ] It's
[00:38] not very helpful. I probably see Easily 60 to 70 a
[00:42] day. Phone calls from candidates. Phone calls from the
[00:45] various political parties. At this point are suffering
[00:48] through them, as opposed to get excited to be apart
[00:52] of a process. The mute button is very, very helpful. I
[00:55] kinda fast forward through them. There's so many ads
[00:58] that it's difficult to tune in when I hear them. You're
[01:01] inundated, there's no way you can not see them.
[01:04] [ SOUND ]
[01:09] There's such excitement about being the place where
[01:11] the caucuses start but there is such a thing as too
[01:15] much. At this point, people are getting sick of the
[01:17] process. We're actually kinda looking forward to the
[01:20] New Hampshire taking over and South Carolina getting
[01:23] all of these ads and all these times and we turn us to A
[01:27] certain sense of normalcy around Iowa. How are ya?
[01:28] Hello, how are you? Hi nice to meet you. All right, right
[01:29] this way. [ INAUDIBLE ]

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