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They sparred over a Canadian birthplace and New York values, hoping to land a punch for the favor of Iowa caucus-goers.

Donald Trump and Ted Cruz took off the gloves Thursday night in a series of tussles that officially severed their long tactical bromance and promised more fights to come as the first-in-the-nation caucuses draw closer.

Pitted against one another by the moderators of the Fox Business debate in South Carolina, the two GOP frontrunners quarreled first over Trump’s concern-trolling about Cruz’s citizenship status.

“Who the hell knows if you can even serve in office?” Trump said to his Republican rival, who was born in Calgary, Alberta, to an American mother. Many legal experts say this satisfies the Constitutional requirement that the President be a natural-born citizen. Trump hasn’t disputed that, but as Cruz climbs in the polls the businessman has floated the prospect of a legal challenge to Cruz’s citizenship and begun playing the Springsteen anthem “Born in the U.S.A.” at rallies as a way to needle the Texan.

**Read More:** [_Here’s the Horror Movie That Ted Cruz Referenced at the GOP Debate_](http://time.com/4181918/ted-cruz-horror-movie-it-follows-republican-debate/)

A day after first responding to Trump’s provocations, Cruz amplified his attacks Thursday in Charleston, noting that Trump had previously dismissed the birther argument.

“My friend Donald said he had had his lawyers look at this from every which way,” Cruz said. “The Constitution hasn’t changed, but the poll numbers have. And I recognize that Donald is dismayed that his poll numbers are falling in Iowa. But the facts and law here are really quite clear. Under longstanding U.S. law, the child of a U.S. citizen born abroad is a natural born citizen.”


In truth, it’s Cruz whose poll numbers have dipped a bit lately. And his campaign brain trust has grown concerned the issue was damaging his standing among Iowa GOP voters. As a result, Cruz sharpened his counterattack on Trump Thursday night, amplifying his claim that the real-estate mogul represents “New York values.”

“The values in New York City are socially liberal or pro-abortion or pro-gay marriage,” Cruz said, and the “focus is around money and the media.” Amplifying the point, Cruz pointed to a 1999 interview Trump did with _Meet the Press_, in which he told host Tim Russert that he was “very pro-choice.”

**Read More:** [_Trump Invokes 9/11 to Defend ‘New York Values’ From Cruz_](http://time.com/4181975/republican-debate-trump-defends-new-york/)

Trump responded by hammering Cruz for his “very insulting” dig at the Big Apple. “When the World Trade Center came down I saw something that no place on Earth could have handled more beautifully, more humanely than anywhere on Earth,” the Manhattanite said.


Who got the better of their skirmishes? Not surprisingly, Cruz—a former college debate champ and Supreme Court litigator—had the better of the birther dust-up. But his chances in the caucuses don’t stand to gain much from a protracted, weedy exchange over whether or not he is actually eligible to be President.

Cruz proved he is willing to go to the mat with the primary’s schoolyard bully by pointing to Trump’s checkered record of conservatism. “The final phase of a campaign is how you differentiate yourself from everybody else,” said Cruz spokesman Rick Tyler. “We’ve arrived at that stage.”

But Trump’s evocation of the city’s strength and grace in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks was perhaps the most poignant moment he has had in a debate.

What’s clear is that with 17 days until the Iowa caucuses, the unofficial détente is over, and the fireworks are about to begin.

_With reporting by Zeke J. Miller/Charleston_


## Transcript

A million dollars is inadvertent. Well, thank you Maria for passing on that hit piece on the front page of the New York Times. You know the nice thing about the mainstream media, they don't hide their views. The New York Times a few weeks back had a columnist who wrote a column saying anybody but Cruz. Actually that same columnist wrote a column comparing me To an evil demonic spirit from the movie It Follows that jumps, apparently, from body to body possessing people. So the New York times and I don't exactly have the warmest of relationships. Now, in terms of their really stunning hit piece, what they mention is when I was running for senate Unlike Hilary Clinton, I don't have masses of money in the bank, hundreds of millions of dollars.

When I was running for Senate, just about every lobbyist, just about all of the establishment opposed me in the Senate race in Texas. And my opponent in that race was worth over $ 200 million. He put a $ 25 million check Up from his own pocket to funded that campaign. And my wife Heidi and I, we ended up investing everything we own, we took a loan against our assets to invest it in that campaign to defend ourselves against those attacks and the entire New York Times attack Is that I disclosed that loan on one filing with the United States Senate that was a pubic filing but it was not on a second filing with the FEC both of those filings were public and yes I made a paperwork error disclosing it on one piece of paper instead of the other, but if that's the best hit the New York Times has got, they better go back to the well.

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