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The actor's conversation with Guzmán may have inadvertently led authorities to the drug lord._ by [Adam Carlson / People](https://time.com/author/people/) ## Adam Carlson / People Contributor Jan 10, 2016 4:41 PM UTC by [Adam Carlson / People](https://time.com/author/people/) ## Adam Carlson / People Contributor Jan 10, 2016 4:41 PM UTC While [Sean Penn](http://www.people.com/people/news/category/0,,personsTax:SeanPenn,00.html) did not have much to say Saturday night about his [just-released bombshell interview](http://www.people.com/article/sean-penn-el-chapo-interview-rolling-stone) with notorious drug lord “El Chapo,” his [ex-wife](http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20097827,00.html) and “[good friend](http://www.people.com/article/sean-penn-madonna-just-friends-dylan-penn-says)” [Madonna](http://www.people.com/people/madonna) had a few words for him. “I want to say Sean, I love you, from the moment that I laid eyes on you,” she said in a speech to Penn while attending the Help Haiti Home charity gala in Beverly Hills, California, [according to _Variety_](http://variety.com/2016/scene/news/sean-penn-el-chapo-help-haiti-home-gala-1201676096/). “I just wish you’d stop smoking cigarettes,” she added. The pair appeared close at Saturday’s event – [not for the first time](http://www.people.com/article/sean-penn-watches-madonna-sing-true-blue-nyc-concert) in recent months – as they arrived together and held hands. Penn’s daughter, Dylan, explained it this way in October: “I think he just really admires her work,” she told _Entertainment Tonight_. “They’re just really good friends and \[I think\] it’s sweet that they can have this relationship.” Indeed, their tumultuous split some 20 years ago seems forgotten in the face of more recent expressions of support. Penn, 55, attended a September concert during Madge’s [_Rebel Heart_ tour](http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20951533,00.html), where she performed “True Blue,” a song originally dedicated to him. And [in December](http://www.people.com/article/madonna-defends-sean-penn-lee-daniels-defamation-suit), Madonna, 57, defended Penn in his defamation suit against film director and _Empire_ creator [Lee Daniels](http://www.people.com/people/news/category/0,,personsTax:LeeDaniels,00.html), who Penn said [had falsely accused him](http://www.people.com/article/sean-penn-lee-daniels-defamation-lawsuit) of abusing the pop star. On Saturday though, Penn was making headlines for reasons nothing to do with his charity work: Hours before the event, _Rolling Stone_ published an interview that Penn conducted in secret with the then-fugitive Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmá Loera, head of the Sinaloa drug cartel. Guzmán was aggressively pursued by Mexican authorities for six months following [his escape](http://www.people.com/article/joaquin-guzman-loera-escapes-mexican-prison) from federal prison in July. He [was recaptured](http://www.people.com/article/joaqiun-el-chapo-guzman-recaptured-returned-to-same-prison) on Friday. Asked to comment about this piece Saturday, according to _Variety_, Penn said, “I can’t.” _This_ [_story_](http://www.people.com/article/madonna-sean-penn-photos-hold-hands-charity-gala) _originally appeared on_ [_People_](http://www.people.com) ## Transcript Mexican authorities already hinted they were able to recapture infamous drug king pin Huahine Al Chapo Guzman as he tried to contact some people in the film industry. Now we know at least one of those people was actor Sean Penn. [ FOREIGN ] These brief video interview with Guzman was part of an in depth profile penned by Penn / ph, and arranged by Mexican actress Kate Del Castillo. Castillo made some social media comments supporting Guzman in 2012, which paved the way for this meeting. The article which mostly deals with Penn's tribulations setting up the interview, presents a fairly favorable portrait of Guzman. Penn notes up front the drug lord was given final approval of the piece before publishing. In the interview, Guzman admits the drug trade is destructive, but places some of the blame on the US. Saying if there was no consumption there would be no sales. Penn himself takes a similar line on the issue. At one point commenting, we are the consumers and as such, we are complicit in every murder and in every corruption. That comes as a result of our insatiable appetite for illicit narcotics. Mexico's Attorney General said Guzman contacted actors and producers to potentially make a bio- pic about himself. At least one anonymous official told other outlets the Penn interview helped authorities narrow their search window. 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