--- title: Rand Paul Says He Will Not Participate in Undercard Debate description: The Kentucky Senator argues that poll numbers shouldn't be the only qualifiers for debates. canonical: https://time.com/4160356/rand-paul-debates-undercard/ author: Daniel White article:opinion: false article:content_tier: free article:published_time: 2015-12-23T18:43:19.000Z article:modified_time: 2026-08-19T07:42:26.084Z article:section: Politics og:title: Rand Paul Says He Will Not Participate in Undercard Debate og:description: The Kentucky Senator argues that poll numbers shouldn't be the only qualifiers. og:url: https://time.com/4160356/rand-paul-debates-undercard/ og:site_name: TIME og:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt007d54ba281966f3/698876c6e20a871893a8ecda/rand-paul3.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 og:image:width: 4928 og:image:height: 2772 og:image:alt: Presidential candidate Sen. 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Rand Paul speaks with the media at the Pints for Liberty event at Rat River Brewery in Columbia, S.C., Aug. 7, 2015. Bill Clark—CQ-Roll Call/Getty Images by [Daniel White](https://time.com/author/daniel-white/) ## Daniel White Dec 23, 2015 6:43 PM UTC Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul said Wednesday that he would [refuse to participate in a “second-tier” debate](http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/rand-paul-i-wont-participate-in-undercard-debate?utm%5Fterm=.bdbjr0n3m7#.lbkm06OV4d) if he does not qualify for the main stage at the Fox Business Network debate. Paul, who polled at 4% in a survey released Wednesday, could be sent to the undercard debate, Politico reported Tuesday, along with Ohio Gov. John Kasich and former HP CEO Carly Fiorina. Paul was not too pleased with the prospect that his campaign had lost steam. “I won’t participate in any kind of second-tier debate,” he said on Fox News Radio’s [_Kilmeade and Friends_](https://soundcloud.com/buzzfeedandrew/rand-paul-on-kilmeade-and-friends-1). “We’ve got a first-tier campaign. I’ve got 800 precinct chairman in Iowa. I’ve got a 100 people on the ground working for me. I’ve raised 25 million dollars. I’m not gonna let any network or anybody tell me we’re not a first-tier campaign. If you tell a campaign with three weeks to go that they’re in the second-tier, you destroy the campaign. This isn’t the job of the media to pick who wins. The voters ought to get a chance.” Paul said that a shrinking main debate stage lays “it up in a lap” for front-runner Donald Trump, arguing that he is the only one on stage that can challenge the real estate mogul. He said that regardless of the viewership numbers for the undercard debate, it was about the perception of his campaign not being competitive. “It’s the kids table and at that table you’re not considered to be a competitor,” Paul said. “Not considered to be having a chance.” Rather than rely on what he called imprecise polling to determine who gets on stage, Paul argued that fundraising and organization should be qualifiers. “Without question, we have a first-tier campaign and we just can’t accept the designation of being artificially told that we don’t have a chance with three weeks ago. So we won’t stand for it and we will protest any such designation,” he said. **Read Next:** [_Donald Trump Dominates Republican Field in Latest Poll_](http://time.com/4159958/donald-trump-poll/?xid=homepage) ### Rand Paul's Unusual Fashion Sense  Politicians love to roll up the sleeves on their button-down shirts while out campaigning, but Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul is one of the few to head straight for the short-sleeve shirt when on the stump. Win McNamee—Getty Images  Paul is also comfortable with a short-sleeve shirt and khakis, a more casual look also favored by his father, at right. Charles Dharapak—AP  While out campaigning, Paul also sometimes goes for a more Western look, pairing blue jeans with cowboy boots. Charles Ommanney—Getty Images  He's also been known to use jeans to make a more classic political combo of button-down shirt and power tie seem less formal. Richard Ellis—Getty Images  At other times, he'll make his outfit less formal by skipping the tie... James Crisp—AP  …or wearing a tie with a bold, fun pattern... Scott Olson—Getty Images  …or by going with a more daring color of shirt... Sonia Moskowitz—Getty Images  …or wearing a sweater on top... Stephen Lance Dennee—AP  …or just wearing a turtleneck. Tom Williams—CQ-Roll Call/Getty Images  At times, Paul has been extremely casual. Hunter Wilson—AP  But at other times, he dressed in the standard Washington fare. Mark Wilson—Getty Images  And he's been known to favor a formal winter coat too. Win McNamee—Getty Images  But even when he does dress up, Paul often finds a way to make the look his own, such as with a pair of sunglasses. Bill Clark—CQ-Roll Call/Getty Images  Sunglasses may also just be a favored accessory because he is an eye doctor. Melina Mara—Washington Post/Getty Images  But whatever he's wearing, Paul finds a way to make it his own. Washington Post/Getty Images ## Transcript Welcome to the CNN Facebook Republican Presidential Debate I think defeat terrorism by showing them that we do not fear them. I fought my way to the top of corporate America while being called every b- word in the book. Our freedom is under attack. Our economy is under water. The leading Democrat is under investigation. And America is under the gun to lead the free world. To protect our civilized way of life. Border security is national security and we will not be admitting jihadist as refugees. We are not talking about isolation. We're talking about security. We're not talking about religion. We're talking about security. This is the most sophisticated terror group, That is every threat in the world to the United States of America. They are actively recruiting Americans. The attacker in San Bernardino was an American citizen. First and foremost, we need to go and destroy ISIS. And we need to do this with our Arab friends, and our friends in Europe. We are not any safer through the bolt collection of every Americans records. In fact I think we're less safe. We have to get rid of all this PC stuff and people are worried about somebody's gonna say that I'm Islamaphobic or what have you. This is craziness. If want to destroy radical Islamic terrorism we can't disassociate ourselves from peace loving Muslims. If we expect to do this on our own, we will fail. The bureaucratic procedures are so far behind, our government has become incompetent, unresponsive, corrupt. And, that incompetence, ineptitude, lack of accountability Accountability is now dangerous. I would certainly be open to closing areas where we are at war with somebody. I sure as hell don't wanna let people that wanna kill us and kill our nation use our internet. Moron. Would you carpet bomb Raqqa, the ISIS capital, where there are a lot of civilians? Yes or no? You would carpet bomb where ISIS is, not a city but the location of the troop. They may not care much about their lives, but they do care, believe it or not, about their families lives. The idea that that is a solution to this is just, is just crazy. Donald, you're not going to be able to insult your way to the presidency. That's not gonna happen. We have to do one thing at a time. We can't be fighting ISIS and fighting Asad. We have to get rid of ISIS first. We need to focus our attention on Iran, because if you miss Iran, you're not gonna get ISIS. For the Russians Frankly, it's time that we punched the Russians in the nose. I didn't say I would cut off all communication with Putin. What I said was, as President of the United States, now is not the time to talk with him. The biggest problem we have today is nuclear proliferation and having some maniac, having some madman go out And yet a nuclear weapon. I, personally, am open to allowing people apply for a green card. Border security is national security. When you're letting people in, when the FBI can't vet them, it puts American citizens at risk. People can come into the country, we welcome people to come in, but they have to come in legally. Charity's about giving your own money, charity isn't giving someone else's money. To put everyone on government housing and food stamps, and bring them in from around the world I think is a mistake. I'm not gonna let Syrian refugees, any Syrian refugees, in this country. And it was widows and orphans by the way. And we now know from watching the San Bernardino attack that women can commit heinous, heinous acts. What I can tell you is all nine of the people here Would make an infinitely better Commander in Chief than Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton. [ APPLAUSE ] To take our country back, to keep our nation safe, we have to begin by beating Hillary Clinton. Gotten to know him over the last three or four days. He has a wonderful temperament. [ LAUGH ] [ APPLAUSE ] He's just fine, don't worry. About it. Okay. Nothing works in our country. If I'm elected president, we will win again. We will win a lot. 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