--- title: Demoratic Debate: Hillary Clinton Knocked Carly Fiorina On Paid Family Leave description: Hillary Clinton criticized Republican rival Carly Fiorina's stance against paid family leave at the Democratic debate. canonical: https://time.com/4072672/hillary-clinton-carly-fiorina-family-leave/ author: Tessa Berenson article:opinion: false article:content_tier: free article:published_time: 2015-10-14T03:08:36.000Z article:modified_time: 2026-10-05T08:32:19.352Z article:section: Politics og:title: How Clinton Knocked Fiorina on Paid Family Leave og:description: "I’m surprised she says that." og:url: https://time.com/4072672/hillary-clinton-carly-fiorina-family-leave/ og:site_name: TIME og:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt90920e7a04aaf3f4/6988682d5f570f5245b1dd60/299eb767749e45b4aa4907201659809f-0.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 og:image:width: 2827 og:image:height: 1590 og:image:alt: DEM 2016 Debate og:type: article twitter:card: summary_large_image twitter:title: How Clinton Knocked Fiorina on Paid Family Leave twitter:description: "I’m surprised she says that." twitter:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt90920e7a04aaf3f4/6988682d5f570f5245b1dd60/299eb767749e45b4aa4907201659809f-0.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 ---  # How Hillary Clinton Knocked Carly Fiorina on Paid Family Leave > Sponsored content. 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Hillary Clinton emerged from the first Democratic presidential debate having given no ground to Bernie Sanders or her lesser-known rivals._  by [Tessa Berenson](https://time.com/author/tessa-berenson/)  ## Tessa Berenson Oct 14, 2015 3:08 AM UTC Hillary Clinton emerged from the first Democratic presidential debate having given no ground to Bernie Sanders or her lesser-known rivals.  by [Tessa Berenson](https://time.com/author/tessa-berenson/)  ## Tessa Berenson Oct 14, 2015 3:08 AM UTC Hillary Clinton criticized Republican rival Carly Fiorina over paid family leave at the Democratic debate Tuesday. CNN moderator Dana Bash asked Clinton to respond directly to Fiorina, the only other woman running on either side and an opponent of federal paid family leave, which she says would provide a disincentive for businesses to hire women. “I’m surprised she says that because California has had a paid leave program for a number of years … and it has not had the ill effects that the Republicans are always saying it will have,” Clinton said. “We can design a system and pay for it that does not put the burden on small business.” Clinton then took it one step further, broadening the argument to hit the whole Republican field and zero in on Fiorina’s attacks on Planned Parenthood. “They don’t mind having big government to interfere with a woman’s right to choose and to take down Planned Parenthood,” Clinton said of Republicans. “I’m sick of it. We should not be paralyzed by the Republicans and their constant refrain of ‘big government this’ and ‘big government that’ … I know we can afford it because we will make the wealthy pay for it,” she said of a federal family and medical leave program. **Read Next:** [_Clinton Says Fiorina Shouldn’t Get a Pass Because She’s a Woman_](http://time.com/4070291/hillary-clinton-carly-fiorina-planned-parenthood/) ## Transcript Like most people that I know, I have a range of views, but they are rooted in my values and my experience. I'm a progressive, but I'm a progressive who likes to get things done. He was going to give immunity to To the only industry in America everybody else has to be accountable, but not the gun manufacturers. I think we need to recognize the incredible challenges that so many parents face. Particularly working moms. I think being the first woman president would be quite a change from the presidents we've had. [ APPLAUSE ] [ APPLAUSE ] at this point. I'm running because I have a lifetime of experience in getting results and fighting for people. I'm fighting for kids, for women, for families, fighting to even the odds. The economy does better when you have a Democrat in the White House, and that's why we need to have a Democrat in the White House! [ APPLAUSE ] I'm not taking a back seat to anybody on my values, my principles, and the results that I get. Please join me in this campaign. please come and make it clear that America's best days are still ahead. Thank you very much. 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