--- title: Briton in Saudi Arabia Faces 350 Lashes for Having Wine description: A British senior citizen detained in Saudi Arabia last August faces a sentence of 350 public lashes for possessing homemade wine canonical: https://time.com/4071071/karl-andree-wine-lashes-saudi/ author: Nash Jenkins article:opinion: false article:content_tier: free article:published_time: 2015-10-13T09:14:48.000Z article:modified_time: 2026-08-04T07:57:31.143Z article:section: World og:title: Briton in Saudi Arabia Faces 350 Lashes for Having Wine og:description: His children say he would not survive the punishment. og:url: https://time.com/4071071/karl-andree-wine-lashes-saudi/ og:site_name: TIME og:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/bltde093bcdab65f2d0/6988d9b9bc6cfc69913e2a3c/time-logo.jpg?branch=production og:image:width: 1200 og:image:height: 675 og:image:alt: TIME og:type: article twitter:card: summary_large_image twitter:title: Briton in Saudi Arabia Faces 350 Lashes for Having Wine twitter:description: His children say he would not survive the punishment. twitter:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/bltde093bcdab65f2d0/6988d9b9bc6cfc69913e2a3c/time-logo.jpg?branch=production --- # An Elderly British Man in Saudi Arabia Faces 350 Lashes For Having Homemade Wine > Sponsored content. 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Ghazi al-Harbi has spent the last seven years locked up as a political prisoner. He is now readjusting to the life he was taken away from_ by [Nash Jenkins](https://time.com/author/p-nash-jenkins/) ## Nash Jenkins Oct 13, 2015 9:14 AM UTC by [Nash Jenkins](https://time.com/author/p-nash-jenkins/) ## Nash Jenkins Oct 13, 2015 9:14 AM UTC A British senior citizen detained in Saudi Arabia last August, when authorities found bottles of homemade wine in his car, faces a sentence of 350 public lashes — a punishment he “would not survive,” [his daughter told the BBC](http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34513096). The children of 74-year-old Karl Andree have entreated British Prime Minister David Cameron to intervene, saying previous bouts of cancer have weakened their father, who also has asthma. “He’s got a great spirit but his bodily health is not great and I just feel like he received his sentence and he did his time and I just want him home now,” Andree’s daughter, Kirsten Piroth, said to the BBC. Andree is serving a yearlong custodial sentence. He was also sentenced to the public flogging upon the completion of his jail term, Reuters [reports](http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/10/13/uk-britain-saudi-idUKKCN0S70QZ20151013). The Briton has spent the past quarter of a century working as an oil executive in Saudi Arabia, where, under Shari‘a law, alcohol is illegal. Last year, Saudi police [arrested a 57-year-old Australian man](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3038135/Australian-man-jailed-six-months-FLOGGED-28-times-drinking-beer-Saudi-Arabia-won-t-let-LEAVE.html) named Peter Mutty who, like Andree, was found in possession of homemade alcohol. He served five months, in a jail cell alongside convicted murderers and a rapist, and received 28 lashes. British officials say the case is being monitored closely. “Our embassy staff are continuing to assist Mr. Andree, including regular visits to check on his welfare, and frequent contact with his lawyer and family,” [the U.K. Foreign Office said](http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/13/karl-andree-briton-350-lashes-saudi-arabia-david-cameron?CMP=twt%5Fgu). “Ministers and senior officials have raised Mr. Andree’s case with the Saudi government and we are actively seeking his release as soon as possible.” \[[_BBC_](http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34513096)\] ## Transcript On weekend mornings, Ghazi Al- Harbi likes to give his daughter driving lessons. [ FOREIGN ] She's only nine, and women aren't allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia anyway, [ FOREIGN ] but that's beside the point. This father and daughter are making up for seven years of lost time. [ LAUGH ] I see my daughter and I don't feel like she's my daughter. I'm trying to bond with her. [ FOREIGN ]. But I still feel she's not the daughter that I knew. [ FOREIGN ] In April of 2005, Al- Harby was detained on the King Faisal Airbase in the town of Tabuk. [ SOUND ] That's where he served as an officer in the Saudi Ministry of Defense. [ FOREIGN ] He was accused of conspiring to commit treason, and planning demonstrations against the state. He denies both crimes. [ FOREIGN ] I've never been out at a demonstration. I never called for a demonstration. [ FOREIGN ] I was simply going from my work, to my home. I was living my life for my family. [ FOREIGN ] Gazzi would spend the next sevsn years locked up as a political detainee. He says it took four years before his first hearing. [ FOREIGN ] In the presence of the judge, I was taken with my eyes blind folded and my feet tied. [ FOREIGN ] [ CROSSTALK ] I said their accusations were not true and I requested to see proof. [ FOREIGN ] But Al Harby had entered the domain of the ministry of intrior. Saudi Arabia's powerful national security agency. [ FOREIGN ] They said I was a unique prisoner and [ CROSSTALK ] they do not have laws to treat me with. Just directives from the ministry of interior. [ FOREIGN ] Following the September 11th attacks in the US, Saudi Arabia endured it's own set of Al- qaeda attacks against civilian and government targets. The Kingdom responded by giving the Interior Ministry unprecedented authority to go after terrorists. Many human rights groups say this authority is being abused. It gave the Ministry of the Interior. An open hand, to detain anyone, anytime, and throw him in prison without any legal due process. [ FOREIGN ] What happened to Rasi is a clear case of that open hand. Mohammed al Qahtani is a human rights activist specializing in arbritary detention. His organization meets [ UNKNOWN ] Monday nights with former detainees like Gazi, and fellow activist. [ FOREIGN ] For the last three years they've been helping political prisoners file reports with international human rights organizations and the United Nations. We're making it clear, that we're not quiet and we are not secret about it. We are going public. Al- Qahtani says he files eight to ten reports a week, but very few actually lead to prisoner releases. He says this is due to international support for the ministries counter- terrorism efforts, which have considerably reduced Al- Qaeda's presence in the kingdom. The praises that their getting is really giving them the ammunition, if you will, to keep on and on and on. But unfortunately our people are paying aheft price. Time contacted the ministry of intereio to comment on Al Harbys case but received no reply. In a meeting with a group of Amerian journalists last spring in [ UNKNOWN ] Rijad a ministry spokesperson addmitted the agency has made wrongful arrests. We make mistakes. Well, nothing wrong actually. Because from the interrogations, we will be able to fill that this people, or this person is, is clear of it and he will be released. He says, the ministry doesn't imprison anyone without conclusive evidence of their involvement in terrorism. Recently we announced that we arrested more than 11, 000 people. But how many are gone to court, how many are still in prison; less than 50 % of that number. A human rights watch report from 2009 paints a different picture. According to interview with families of political prisoners; many detainees are held for years without trial and access to a lawyer. The report also describes prisoner beating, sleep deprivation, and threats to family members. [ FOREIGN ] They used to hang me from a door with cuffs. [ FOREIGN ] And then they would pull me up until my feet were off the ground. [ FOREIGN ] And then they would hit me with their headbands. [ FOREIGN ] [ SOUND ] I must have, two ears. Al Harvey spent the first two years of his sentence inside this prison in Tabuk. [ FOREIGN ] He was released from prison in February. He says the conditions of his release were as puzzling as his imprisonment. For that reason he says he fears he can end up back there at any time. I'm living in fear. I feel like I have no rights. I am living in every meaning of the word, a nightmare. [ FOREIGN ] [ SOUND ] Al Harby has returned to his old post in the military. But says it's difficult seeing his former coleagues promoted to higher positions. He says his job has lost it's meaning. [ FOREIGN ] I used to wear my uniform with pride, with dedication and I used to go to the field, sit with other soldiers and I was very proud. I'm a different person than I was seven years ago. [ FOREIGN ] For time, this is Jacob Templin in Tabuk, Saudi Arabia. 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