--- title: GOP Debate: Carly Fiorina for (Vice) President description: Being a non politician gives her an advantage—until the real campaigning starts canonical: https://time.com/4038312/gop-debate-non-politician/ author: Karol Markowicz article:opinion: true article:content_tier: free article:published_time: 2015-09-17T21:09:10.000Z article:modified_time: 2026-10-05T08:32:02.150Z article:section: Ideas og:title: Carly Fiorina for (Vice) President og:description: Being a non politician gives her an advantage—until the real campaigning starts og:url: https://time.com/4038312/gop-debate-non-politician/ og:site_name: TIME og:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blte8b1bcbe5eb27bee/698864063c1639ed3f459c4b/fiorina.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 og:image:width: 4224 og:image:height: 2376 og:image:alt: Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina takes part in the presidential debates at the Reagan Library in Simi Valley, California on Sept. 16, 2015. og:type: article twitter:card: summary_large_image twitter:title: Carly Fiorina for (Vice) President twitter:description: Being a non politician gives her an advantage—until the real campaigning starts twitter:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blte8b1bcbe5eb27bee/698864063c1639ed3f459c4b/fiorina.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 ---  # Carly Fiorina for (Vice) President! > Sponsored content. 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This time there are three—Donald Trump, Ben Carson and Carly Fiorina, two sitting [atop the polls](http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/new-national-gop-poll-shows-surge-ben-carson-n427526) and Fiorina making an impact in the news media. Of the three, Carly proven her mettle the most Wednesday night, with detailed policy proposals, while the others present a vague idea of what their presidency would look like. She’s able to drop lines like “[good friend Bibi Netanyahu](http://time.com/4037239/second-republican-debate-transcript-cnn/)” while Donald Trump says he would “[get along with the heads of Mexico](http://time.com/4037239/second-republican-debate-transcript-cnn/)” without naming them or explaining why the “heads” of Mexico would get along with him after he builds his much-touted wall along their border. And yet the problem for Fiorina is that despite her killer debate performances and her perfect ads, few are taking her seriously as a candidate for president. Is it possible to have a runaway favorite for vice president? If it is, then Carly Fiorina is it. At about this point in the 2012 election, [Herman Cain was leading in the polls](http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2096836,00.html). More Trump than Fiorina, Cain was a successful businessman, he kept his message simple, and he didn’t concern himself with knowing a lot about world politics. (Full disclosure: I worked on Cain’s U.S. Senate race when he ran in Georgia in 2004). In 2008, Rudy Giuliani was the [runaway favorite](http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/09/magazine/09Giuliani-t.html?pagewanted=all&%5Fr=0). While Giuliani was a politician, he was the successful two-term mayor of New York City who led the city in the time of crisis following the 9/11 attacks; he wasn’t the traditional senator or governor, with experience with statewide races, who we tend to see on the presidential stage. What these non politicians have in common is they tend to speak plainly, with language not couched by years of politicking and trying to be many things to many people. The public loves it—but ultimately doesn’t come out and vote for it. The liability of the non-politician is they have limited experience running for office. Like Cain, Fiorina has [run](http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/carly-fiorina-failed-senate-bid-haunts-2016-ambitions) for U.S. Senate previously and lost. Having a winning campaign under your belt is important. Structuring an organization, raising money and putting together a strong ground effort in the early states is learned through earlier campaigns, and these skills are much more important than having your face on TV. If Fiorina, or Carson or Trump, wants to stand a chance, they’ll spend their time meeting with precinct captains in Iowa and district leaders in South Carolina, putting together a strong ground game and spending their time on the phone with donors raising money. There’s no doubt the more seasoned politicians in the race are doing those things right now. Fiorina is doing something right, and she should keep doing it. On Wednesday night, compared to the other candidates, Carly Fiorina looked like she could go another three hours and not miss a beat. Whether Americans are finally ready to take a chance on the non politician, be it Fiorina or the others, remains to be seen. _Markowicz has a Master’s Degree from NYU in Political Management and also worked on more than 10 political campaigns in four states._ ## Transcript [00:00] [ APPLAUSE ] I never attacked him on his look. And [00:02] believe me, there's plenty of subject matter right [00:05] there. [ LAUGH ] We don't need an apprentice in the [00:06] White House. We have one right now. So 40 years ago, [00:09] I smoked marijuana. But when you challenge the status [00:12] quo, you make enemies. I made a few. Steve Jobs told [00:15] me that when he called me the day I was fired. More [00:17] energy tonight. I like that. Just because he says it [00:19] doesn't make it true. I think women all over this [00:21] country heard very clearly what Mr. Trump said. [00:28] [ MUSIC ] We're fighting ISIS. ISIS wants to fight Syria. [00:30] Why are we fighting ISIS in Syria? Let them fight each [00:34] other and pick up the remnants .>> Yes. Having met [00:36] Vladimir Putin, I wouldn't talk to him at all. We've [00:38] talked way too much to him. The single biggest [00:41] National security threat facing America right now, is the [00:44] threat of a nuclear Iran. We are stronger when we work [00:47] with the western civilization, our friends in Europe, and [00:49] just doing it on our own, I don't think is the right policy. [00:53] I don't think we need to be rash. I don't think we need [00:55] to be reckless. And I think we need to leave a lines of [00:59] communication open. We need to be strong against [01:01] China. How do we confront Iran? And the first thing that [01:04] we need to do is to reestablish our commitment to [01:07] Israel, which has been tattered by this administration. [01:09] [ MUSIC ] [01:12] I defunded Planned Parenthood. And I vetoed Planned [01:15] Parenthood funding, now, 8 times in New Jersey. We [01:18] don't want this organization to get funding, and the [01:20] money oughta be reprogrammed. And for family [01:23] planning in other organizations that don't support this [01:25] tactic. Let's ask Hillary Clinton. She believes in the [01:29] systematic murder of children in the womb, to [01:32] preserve their body parts [ UNKNOWN ] in a way that [01:35] maximizes their value for sale for profit. Well he's [01:38] wrong on a lot of things, but on this he's wrong [01:40] because I'm the most pro- life governor on this stage. [01:43] I'd like to link these two issues, both of which are [01:45] incredibly important. Iran and Planned Parenthood. [01:49] One has something to do with the defense of the [01:51] security of this nation. The other has something to do [01:53] with the defense of the character of this nation. We [01:59] need to take the fingerprint of every person. Who [02:02] comes to this country on a visa, and when they over [02:04] stay their visa we need to tap them on the shoulder [02:07] and say, you have over stayed your welcome, you're [02:09] taking advantage of the American people, it's time for [02:11] you to go. If we don't seal the border the rest of the [02:14] stuff really doesn't matter. You're proud of your family [02:17] just as I am. Correct. To subject my wife into the [02:19] middle of a raucous. Political conversation was [02:23] completely inappropriate. And I hope you apologize [02:25] for that, Donald. But to build a wall and to deport [02:28] people, half a million a month, would cost hundreds of [02:31] billions of dollars, Donald. This is a country where we [02:35] speak English, not Spanish. [ APPLAUSE ] And the next [02:38] president of the United States better be someone who [02:40] understands these issues, and has good judgment [02:43] about them. ```json [{"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"OpinionNewsArticle","@id":"https://time.com/4038312/gop-debate-non-politician/","mainEntityOfPage":{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https://time.com/4038312/gop-debate-non-politician/"},"headline":"Carly Fiorina for (Vice) President!","datePublished":"2015-09-17T21:09:10.000Z","dateModified":"2026-10-05T08:32:02.150Z","description":"Being a non politician gives her an advantage—until the real campaigning starts","url":"https://time.com/4038312/gop-debate-non-politician/","keywords":["politics"],"thumbnailUrl":"https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blte8b1bcbe5eb27bee/698864063c1639ed3f459c4b/fiorina.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=1200:675&height=675","author":[{"@type":"Person","name":"Karol Markowicz","jobTitle":null,"url":"https://time.com/author/karol-markowicz/"}],"articleSection":"Ideas","image":[{"@type":"ImageObject","url":"https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blte8b1bcbe5eb27bee/698864063c1639ed3f459c4b/fiorina.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=1200:675&height=675","width":1200,"height":675,"headline":"Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina takes part in the presidential debates at the Reagan Library in Simi Valley, California on Sept. 16, 2015.","caption":"Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina takes part in the presidential debates at the Reagan Library in Simi Valley, California on Sept. 16, 2015.","creditText":"Justin Sullivan—Getty Images","representativeOfPage":true}],"publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"Time","url":"https://time.com/","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","url":"https://time.com/images/logo.png","width":528,"height":156},"foundingDate":"March 3, 1923","sameAs":["https://www.facebook.com/time","https://www.instagram.com/time/?hl=en","https://twitter.com/time","https://www.pinterest.com/timemagazine"]}},{"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"BreadcrumbList","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"item":{"@id":"https://time.com/section/ideas/","name":"Ideas"}},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"item":{"@id":"https://time.com/tag/politics/","name":"politics"}},{"@type":"ListItem","position":3,"item":{"@id":"https://time.com/4038312/gop-debate-non-politician/","name":"Carly Fiorina for (Vice) President!"}}]},{"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"VideoObject","name":"Watch the Republican Debate In Less than 3 Minutes","description":"Watch the top 11 Republican candidates face off during the second GOP debate.","thumbnailUrl":"https://cdn.jwplayer.com/v2/media/FZG84mwx/poster.jpg?width=720","uploadDate":"2015-09-17T04:16:23.000Z","contentUrl":"https://cdn.jwplayer.com/manifests/FZG84mwx.m3u8","embedUrl":"https://time.com/4038312/gop-debate-non-politician/","duration":"PT2M44S","potentialAction":{"@type":"SeekToAction","target":"https://time.com/4038312/gop-debate-non-politician/?jw_start={seek_to_second_number}","startOffset-input":"required name=seek_to_second_number"}}] ```