--- title: Donald Trump to Journalist Jorge Ramos: "Go Back to Univision" description: Donald Trump sought to silence the Spanish-language journalist, Jorge Ramos in Iowa on Tuesday canonical: https://time.com/4010745/trump-ramos-immigration/ author: Sam Frizell article:opinion: false article:content_tier: free article:published_time: 2015-08-26T00:32:34.000Z article:modified_time: 2023-12-14T02:28:02.000Z article:section: Politics og:title: Trump to Journalist Jorge Ramos: "Go Back to Univision" og:description: Trump sought to silence the Spanish-language journalist og:url: https://time.com/4010745/trump-ramos-immigration/ og:site_name: TIME og:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/bltd075f0f0b2fef977/698860e3524fc07c7cdf43a6/gettyimages-485043514.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 og:image:width: 3000 og:image:height: 1688 og:image:alt: Celebrity Sightings In New York City - August 23, 2015 og:type: article twitter:card: summary_large_image twitter:title: Trump to Journalist Jorge Ramos: "Go Back to Univision" twitter:description: Trump sought to silence the Spanish-language journalist twitter:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/bltd075f0f0b2fef977/698860e3524fc07c7cdf43a6/gettyimages-485043514.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 ---  # Donald Trump and Univision's Jorge Ramos Spar on Immigration > Sponsored content. 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Presidential candidate Donald Trump seen at the Air Pegasus West 30th Street Heliport on August 23, 2015 in New York City. Michael Stewart—GC Images by [Sam Frizell](https://time.com/author/sam-frizell/) and [Justin Worland](https://time.com/author/justin-worland/) Updated: Dec 14, 2023 2:28 AM UTCPublished: Aug 26, 2015 12:32 AM UTC Donald Trump attacked the most important journalist on Spanish-speaking television in a face-off with Univision’s Jorge Ramos on Tuesday in Iowa, the latest in a series of verbal assaults against journalists by the billionaire presidential candidate. The latest kerfuffle began when Ramos tried to ask Trump about his immigration plan before he called. Trump responded by telling anchor Ramos to “go back to Univision.” Earlier this month Trump [insulted Fox News anchor Megan Kelly](http://time.com/3989652/donald-trump-megyn-kelly-blood-wherever/) after she asked him tough debate questions, saying she had “blood coming out of her wherever.” This week Trump continued to taunt Kelly, using the word “bimbo” to describe Kelly in tweet and saying he liked her show better without her. In another spat with journalists, Trump launched into a [tirade](http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2015/07/21/donald-trump-issues-statement-register-editorial/30460903/) against the Des Moines _Register_ last month after the newspaper’s editorial board called on him to drop out of the race. In a statement, Trump said the paper had “lost much circulation, advertising, and power” and would “do anything for a headline.” At a press conference this week, Trump pounced on Ramos as he stood up and asked Trump a question about his immigration plan before he was called. “Sit down. You weren’t called sit down. Sit down.” “I have the right to ask a question,” said Ramos. “No you don’t,” Trump said. “You haven’t been called. Go back to Univision.” As Ramos continued to speak, Trump appeared to glance at his regular, traveling bodyguard and click his lips. The bodyguard then approached Ramos and escorted him out of the room. When a reporter asked Trump about the exchange moments later, Trump said, “I don’t really know much about him… I didn’t escort him out. Whoever security is escorted him out.” Trump added “Somebody just walked him out, I don’t know where he is, I don’t even mind if he comes back, frankly… He’s obviously a very emotional person.” About ten minutes later, Ramos was allowed back into the room, and again challenged Trump on his immigration policy, saying “Your immigration plan is full of empty promises. You cannot deport 11 million people. You cannot deny citizenship to the children. You cannot—” Trump cut him off. “Why do you say that? Excuse me, no, no. A lot of people think that’s not right, that an act of Congress can do that,” referring to citizenship by birth, a constitutional principle that grants citizenship to children born in the United States. Trump interrupted Ramos several times, continuing to make his argument. “Excuse me, no. No, no, some of the greatest legal scholars, and I know some of those television scholars agree with you,” he told Ramos as they disputed birth citizenship. The exchange between journalist and real estate mogul was so tense partly because it centered on one of the most controversial planks of Trump’s candidacy, his immigration platform. The real estate mogul has called for the deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants and the construction of a 1900-mile wall between the United States and Mexico. Trump’s plan has won him the support of the Republican conservative base, and anger among immigrant advocates, moderates, Democrats and Hispanics. Ramos has been a persistent critic of Trump, questioning the Republican candidate’s scanty immigration white paper and the expense and chaos that deporting 11 million undocumented immigrants might cause. Trump defended his plan to Ramos, saying “We’re going to do it in a very humane fashion,” said Trump. “I have a bigger heart than you do.” ## Transcript It's very simple. We either have a country, or we don't. The first think I need is a wall, and I will build a wall, and the wall is a fraction of what the Great Wall of China, which is 13, 000 miles. Think of it. 13, 000 miles as opposed to two, and a lot of the area, you don't have to do, because you have natural terrain. You have a natural wall better than anything you could build. > So you really need probably a thousand miles as opposed to 13 thousand miles. So we will build a wall. Before I even start the wall though I'm gonna get the bad ones out. We've got some really bad dudes in this country and their gang members in Baltimore and their gang members in Chicago and they're very bad people and we're going to get them out. Before, because I can do that the first day. Just talking about the hard- working, peaceful undocumented immigrants here. Illegal immigrants. We're talking about the illegal, you know the word, right? The illegal immigrants. Okay. The They go out. The state police? And we're going to have a system where we're going to expedite if they're good they're gonna come back in. But if they don't go out, do you forcibly remove them? And they're gonna come back in legally. But do you forcibly remove them? I mean, if they choose not to go, if they say no, I'm not going to go, my kid's in school. It will all work out. It's called management. Politicians can't manage. All they can do is talk. It's called management, and we'll do an expedited system because I agree with you. There's some very, very good people here, who are here illegally. 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