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# Iran Looms Over ISIS Fight as Baghdad-Tehran Alliance Moves Into Tikrit

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_Published 2015-02-26. How the rivalry between ISIS & Al-Nusra is tearing families apart_


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## Mark Thompson


Mar 11, 2015 9:37 PM UTC

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Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Army Gen. Martin Dempsey (L), U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter (C) and Secretary of State John Kerry testify at a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on "The President's Request for Authorization to Use Force Against ISIS: Military and Diplomatic Efforts" on Capitol Hill in Washington on March 11, 2015.

Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Army Gen. Martin Dempsey (L), U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter (C) and Secretary of State John Kerry testify at a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on "The President's Request for Authorization to Use Force Against ISIS: Military and Diplomatic Efforts" on Capitol Hill in Washington on March 11, 2015. Kevin Lamargue—Reuters

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## Mark Thompson


Mar 11, 2015 9:37 PM UTC

The future of Iraq and Syria was supposed to be the focus of Wednesday’s hearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. No surprise there, given the fact that the Islamic State of Iraq and Greater Syria occupies about a third of each nation.

But the subplot — like a shark’s fin endlessly circling Defense Secretary Ashton Carter, Joint Chiefs chairman General Martin Dempsey and Secretary of State John Kerry — was Iran.

Iran came up at the hearing 67 times, nearly as much as Iraq (79) and more than Syria (44).

The hearing carried echoes of similar ones more than a decade ago that portrayed Iraq as a threat worth going to war to stop. “I think they have the same suspicion about us that we have of them,” Dempsey said of his Iranian counterparts.

Republican lawmakers pointedly asked the trio if the Obama Administration was averting its eyes from Iran’s growing presence in Iraq in hopes of greasing the skids for a nuclear deal with Tehran. “I believe that much of our strategy with regards to ISIS is being driven by a desire not to upset Iran so that they don’t walk away from the negotiating table on the deal that you’re working on,” Republican Senator Marco Rubio of Florida said.

“Absolutely not in the least,” Kerry countered.

But as the hearing droned on, Iraq was [succeeding](//www.militarytimes.com/story/military/2015/03/11/witnesses-iraqi-forces-enter-islamic-state-held-tikrit/70142696/) in pushing ISIS fighters out of Tikrit after a 10-day battle. While Baghdad did it with no American help, it had substantial aid from neighboring Iran.


Dempsey detailed just how extensive Iran’s help was in the battle for Tikrit: 20,000 of the 24,000 troops fighting ISIS in and around the city, or more than 80%, were “Iranian trained and somewhat Iranian equipped” Shi‘ite militia.

Tikrit carries a key lesson: Iraq can beat ISIS without U.S. assistance, so long as it has Iran by its side. “If it’s Iran that is at the tip of the spear here, if they’re the ones sponsoring the victories … they’re going to have influence in Iraq,” Republican Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin said. “That’s going to be very, very difficult, very tenuous, very dangerous for the regional peace.”


The chairman of the Joint Chiefs listed six things that concern him about Iran’s growing role in Iraq and the region:

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Dempsey said Iran’s role in the fight for Tikrit is “positive,” but warned of what might happen next. “We are all concerned about what happens after the drums stop beating and \[ISIS\] is defeated,” he said. “We’re very concerned about that.”


Later Wednesday, Carter noted that “there are actually several important battles going on, in some of which the Iranians play no role at all.”

Back at the hearing, Republican Senator Bob Corker of Tennessee, the committee chairman, wondered aloud if the Iranian-backed militia might attack the 3,000 American troops currently in Iraq.

“We have no indications that they intend to turn on us,” Dempsey said.

That’s hardly reassuring, given Iran’s track record in Iraq. After the 2003 U.S. invasion, Pentagon officials say Tehran [provided](http://www.nationaljournal.com/record-number-of-u-s-troops-killed-by-iranian-weapons-20110728) Shi‘ite militias inside Iraq with a sophisticated form of IEDs. These so-called explosively formed penetrators killed hundreds of U.S. troops.

_Read next:_ [_Why Iran Believes ISIS is a U.S. Creation_](http://time.com/3720081/isis-iran-us-creation/?iid=time%5Freadnext)


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## Transcript

[ NOISE ] The war in Syria is three years old. And it's spilling over into neighboring countries across the Middle East. Fighters from around the world are pouring into Iraq and Syria to join the ranks of ISIS. In this storyTye meets with family members who claim their sons have joined military groups like Isis and the [ UNKNOWN ] front. All families interviewed for this story are Kurdish. Kurds represent about 18 % of the Turkish population. While most Kurds are fighting against Islamic militants these families have seen their brothers and sons go off to war in the opposite camp. Fighting side by side with ISIS in the Al Nasser front.

The stigma these families now face makes them weary of speaking on camera, but these interviews are a rare glimpse of the growing tension in the region as ISIS widens its reach. [ FOREIGN ] [ FOREIGN ]. [ FOREIGN ] He grew up as any other child would coming from a small village. He was sent to a boarding school because we were a poor family. Then at nineteen he became a martyr. He went to places where they developed his ideas and brainwashed him. [ FOREIGN ] [ FOREIGN ]. He met some guys that made him pray in a different way from others. They made him believe that if he goes to fight, they made him swear to be like them.

And told him that if he does, that he will go to heaven and so will the rest of his family. [ FOREIGN ]. > They took him away from me. They knew that if they took him there he would die. They didn't care. He was against Assad and he went there to help his Muslim brothers. The war had not spread to Iraq at that point. After he died it got messier. I tried to convince him not to go. But he didn't want to change his mind. He wasn't a bad person. > He wasn't a bad person. ( foreign singing ). [ FOREIGN ]. [ FOREIGN ] The problem with Syria is that Assad has been killing people for many years now. But now these people are waking up and realizing what the West offered is just poverty, [ FOREIGN ] But now these people are waking up and realizing what the West offered is just poverty, drugs, tears, suffering.

We believe that wherever there is violence, the responsibility comes from the West. [ MUSIC ] He went there because he had been arrested once before. And the government was going to arrest him again. He was going to be arrested for theft, that was one of the reasons he left. [ FOREIGN ] He was going to be arrested for theft. That was one of the reasons he left. [ MUSIC ] [ FOREIGN ]. All families interviewed for the story come from southeastern Anatolia, but more families across Europe and the United States are seeing their loved ones leave for war. Just recently, three British school girls were believed to be travelling to Syria to join ISIS.

As Smith suggests that more than 3, 000 Europeans have travelled to Syria and Iraq since 2000. Fourteen, representing roughly one quarter of the foreign fighters in the region. For these families, often cut off from their sons and brothers, questions linger. Why did their loved ones leave them behind? [ MUSIC ]

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