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# Scott Walker Changes Position on Immigration as 2016 Nears

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## Video: Real TIME: Scott Walker At CPAC 2015

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_Published 2015-02-28. Gov. Scott Walker shared his views on the economy, minimum wage, and and the partisan showdown in Congress over Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's impending visit to the U.S. during his speech at CPAC._


by 

[Dan Hirschhorn](https://time.com/author/dan-hirschhorn/)


## Dan Hirschhorn


Mar 1, 2015 9:09 PM UTC

Scott Walker Changes His Stance On Immigration 

by 

[Dan Hirschhorn](https://time.com/author/dan-hirschhorn/)


## Dan Hirschhorn


Mar 1, 2015 9:09 PM UTC

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker [said in a new interview](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/03/01/walker-my-view-has-changed-on-immigration-reform/) that he has changed his position and now opposes a path to citizenship for immigrants in the U.S. illegally, a policy shift that comes as the Republican is emerging as a conservative favorite in the 2016 presidential race.

“My view has changed. I’m flat-out saying it,” Walker said during an interview on _Fox News Sunday_. “I look at the problems we’ve experienced for the last few years. I’ve talked to governors on the border and others out there. I’ve talked to people all across America. And the concerns I have is that we need to secure the border. We ultimately need to put in place a system that works. A legal immigration system that works.”

[The acknowledgement](http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-news-sunday-chris-wallace/2015/03/01/gov-walker-cpac-record-wisconsin-rep-scalise-talks-dhs-funding-fight) came after host Chris Wallace aired a clip of Walker in 2013, when he was asked about a system that would allow undocumented immigrants to get citizenship and responded, “I think it makes sense.”

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“I don’t believe in amnesty,” Walker said Sunday.

Walker, admired by conservatives for his victories over organized labor in Wisconsin, has been rising in polls in early-voting states like Iowa and New Hampshire, and immigration policy is an area where he can differentiate himself from one of his top likely rivals, [former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush](http://time.com/3726729/jeb-bush-conservatives-cpac/). Walker [finished second in a straw poll of conservative activists](http://time.com/3727432/rand-paul-scott-walker-cpac/) at a weekend conference in Washington, coming behind Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul.


“Candidates can say that,” Walker added in acknowledging the immigration shift. “Sometimes they don’t.”


## Transcript

[00:00] [ MUSIC ]
[00:02] Today
[00:04] in Washington, we have a president who thinks we
[00:07] grow the economy by growing Washington. Well, I got
[00:11] news for him. We believe in America that is growing the
[00:14] economy in cities and towns and villages all across this
[00:18] great country. We think that's the way to go forward.
[00:20] [ APPLAUSE ]
[00:25] And we need a leader who understands that when the
[00:27] Prime Minister and leader of our long time ally asks
[00:31] to come to congress to share his concerns about Iran,
[00:35] we should show him and his country our respect.
[00:38] [ MUSIC ] I think arguing about how low wages are is
[00:42] a faulty argument. I'll let the left worry about how low
[00:45] they want people to be. I wanna have everyone in this
[00:48] country be able to live their piece of the American
[00:49] Dream, get the government out of the way, and help
[00:52] them get the skills they need to support their families
[00:54] going forward. [ MUSIC ]

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