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Terms and conditions apply. * Savings buckets are a feature of Ally Bank's Savings Account. * No ATM fees from Ally Bank at Allpoint and Moneypass ATMs plus we reimburse for fees charged by other ATM owners nationwide up to $10 per statement cycle. * Early direct deposit offers eligible direct deposits up to two days sooner. * Spending buckets are a feature of Ally Bank's Spending Account. ## Video: E.L. James and Fans Talk 'Fifty Shades of Grey' [Watch (HLS stream): E.L. James and Fans Talk 'Fifty Shades of Grey'](https://cdn.jwplayer.com/manifests/HbsVgTNO.m3u8) (7:09)  _Published 2015-02-05. In 2012, TIME spoke with 'Fifty Shades of Grey' author E.L. James in one of the few on-camera interviews she has appeared in_ by [Belinda Luscombe](https://time.com/author/belinda-luscombe/), [Diane Tsai](https://time.com/author/diane-tsai/) and [Gillian Laub](https://time.com/author/gillian-laub/) Feb 6, 2015 2:00 PM UTC by [Belinda Luscombe](https://time.com/author/belinda-luscombe/), [Diane Tsai](https://time.com/author/diane-tsai/) and [Gillian Laub](https://time.com/author/gillian-laub/) Feb 6, 2015 2:00 PM UTC When Erika Leonard first came up with the idea that became _Fifty Shades of Grey_, she called herself Snow Queen Ice Dragon — or SQID, for short — and wrote on a site for _Twilight_ fans. Her erotic tales involving the characters Bella Thorne and Edward Cullen proved so popular she was persuaded to change some names and amass them into an e-book, produced by a teensy publisher in suburban Australia and written under the name E.L. James. Kindles were a relatively new thing in 2011 and, as Leonard tells it, a group of women in Long Island, New York, found the e-books and began to tell their friends — of which there were _many_. As the book’s popularity grew, a group invited Leonard to come to a a reading. Photojournalist Gillian Laub was there for the occasion and grabbed an interview with the reclusive author. Fast forward a few years, and Leonard is now a multimillionaire author and producer of the movie version of _Fifty Shades_, out Feb. 13\. While media reports suggest that she hasn’t let wealth and fame change her too much, she doesn’t really need to give interviews. But she did consent to answer some (not all) of our questions via email. **TIME: What scene in the movie were you most worried about translating to screen and why?** **Erika Leonard:** I was most worried about the scenes in the red room. I wanted them to be tasteful and erotic, and that was a journey, but we got there in the end. **Do you have favorite scene?** The glider scene and the post-graduation bar scene. For me those scenes really capture the spirit of the book. **What made you decide to become a producer?** Because I could. (Christian Grey would appreciate that comment.) I didn’t want to take the money and run — I wanted the movie to be one the readership would love. **What have you enjoyed most about the process of filming?** I enjoyed breaking down the book with the screenwriter Kelly Marcel and deciding what should and should not be in the movie. That was fun — hard work, but fun. **Your life must have changed so much in the last three years. Do you have any reflections on fame?** Fame is not something I sought, and happily I’m still not that famous — I can still roam the streets anonymously, at home and in the States, and I love that. But I have had some amazing experiences, and for that I’m incredibly grateful to all the people who bought and loved the books. **Is there anything you would differently if you wrote the books again?** Yes. Quite a few things, in fact — but the books seem to be so well loved by so many I’ve let all that go… **Do you have plans to write more books?** Yes, I do. But like most authors I’d rather do it than talk about it. **These books are an exploration of a fantasy. Have you been surprised by how much they’ve resonated?** Surprised doesn’t quite cover it. I get the most extraordinary, heart wrenching emails from readers who have been deeply touched by the books. I’m honored that so many people have shared their moving stories and their love of the books with me. ## Transcript I had discovered the box, I would think, the way most people did. It was word of mouth, passing of a whisper. My friend Vanessa came up to me and said did you read 50 Shades of Grey, and I said no, I've been in a writing slump and she said you need to read it, and you need to do it now, and you need to wear a pantyliner. [ CROSSTALK ] The night of the event, I was sweating, I was schvitzing. [ NOISE ] They came in, in droves. They came in, in limos. They came in car services. They drove it, Long Island, Westchester, Connecticut, New York City, up town, downtown. [ APPLAUSE ] They were all there to see E. L. James. [ APPLAUSE ] I'm completely and utterly stunned by the reaction to these books. I'm completely. [ INAUDIBLE ]. Just having it on my own Facebook page, I had 650 RSVPs for this event, in two days. [ INAUDIBLE ]. You have changed every mother, and if you're not a mother, every woman's life. Basically it's a love story, a love story with a kink is what I like to call it. [ CROSSTALK ] Hold on. [ CROSSTALK ] Okay, I wanna know if any of this is based on any truth of your own ****. [ LAUGH ] Well I read the books to myself. It's, it's my fantasy written large. And Christian, in Christian, I created this kind of mystery man. He's very good looking. He's very good at sex. He's disgustingly rich. He's every, everyone's dream in a way. Well, he's certainly my dream. His answering grin is dazzling. [ INAUDIBLE ] onto the sea once more, and I think I forgive him. [ APPLAUSE ] I wrote Twilight. And I loved it. And then I discovered, Twilight fan fiction. And then I came up with the idea for what would eventually become 50 Shades, and I wrote that. To me, cuz I was also a huge Twilight fan. And why do we love it so much? First of all, the way that you write is unbelievable, like, I feel like I'm there. And second, it's a sense of security. Like, when he found her at the bar. When Brother Patterson found her when she was about to get raped. Like, all, it's like a sense of security j a little jealousy, and good sense. So as a way you describe it [ CROSSTALK ]. No, it's doing the right thing. Is it a right time? [ CROSSTALK ] [ LAUGH ] My husband was a little jealous. He didn't say that he was jealous, but he was a little short with me. At first it was cute with him, but then when I was not paying attention and reading at night as opposed to watching a show that we usually watch together. He would get a little bit like, you're reading that book again? I'm like well that book is gonna get you lucky later so, shh. After we have a child sometimes, you know, you just let your, everything changes in your life. It's about your children and it's about running your career, your career, your job and your work and your home and whatever it is and sometimes you forget. To [ NOISE ] At the book signing someone told me they have never had a orgasm before and they're 43 years old and they had an orgasm. Someone told me they had an orgasm just reading the book and I just thought really? What's your name again and just signed the book very quickly. I mean, you know, it's, it was extraordinary. I love when she uses the periods for emphasis. It changes the whole dynamic of the writing. You are so beautiful he breathes. I stare up at his dear, dear face. Bathed in the intensity of his gaze, it's as if he's seeing me for the first time . >> I'm sorry, I don't know what came over me. I curl up in his lap inhale his heavenly Christian smell, feeling same regardless of the fact that he's mad. Me neither, where would you like, he murmurs. He runs his hand up my bare leg to my thigh. Besides, this dress has its advantages. And before I'm even away of it, he's unzipping his pants, pulling me astride his lap and sinking into me. I grasp the back of the chair, my feet just touching the ground, and we start to move. Men are visual. You know, you walk in, in lingerie. They immediately are, like, oh, my God, yes, that's what I want. Women are not necessarily that. For me, it was that voice that was in this book, Christian's voice. Like, everyone's trying to connect. To cast Christian. And yeah, there were all these beautiful actors that I see out there. But for me, it's my husband's voice. I think that's it also. I think I was reading the book and I think I became Anna a little bit. Not that, that we're so similar. I mean, we are in certain ways that I like, the way she kinds of, you know, stood up for herself. But. We all wanna be taken control of a little bit. I'm wondering kind of what i've noticed is that what Anna achieved in the world is not something that you can spell out, but what she has really done is changed. This woman female character changed this man. And I think that's really at the core of it, where we can't change our mates, and we are told this by every psychologist on every show, and in every magazine article, you cannot change your man. Men, you cannot change your woman. And she changed him. And I think that's a huge attraction for women who have been married and going through life and raising their children. That wow, she actually did it. None of us did it, but she did. [ CROSSTALK ] That's the fantasy side. We have a man here! It's a decision that you have to make. Do I want go with this beautiful, flawed, damaged man, or not, because he comes with so much baggage. He has a lot of baggage. He's a fixer upper. It was a little bit about the sexual part but it was mostly about this innocent woman who was able to change Mr. Gray. I felt like the diva in how, in her empowered her and that was the uplifting part of the book, the romance part, the changing. The, given into each other. [ CROSSTALK ] They like to think that love can conquer all and redeem and heal and I mean, the story is about unconditional love, really, underneath it all. I think. Oh my. He wants me. Christian Grey, Greek god, wants me. And I want him, here, now, in the elevator. 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