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## Video: Dick Cavett Revisits the Office Where He Got His Start

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_Published 2014-11-12. The television legend came back to visit the place where he got his start. And, he discovered, even when it comes to office space, time refuses to stand still_


by [Francesca Trianni](https://time.com/author/francesca-trianni/) and [Lily Rothman](https://time.com/author/lily-rothman/)

Nov 13, 2014 3:00 PM UTC

by [Francesca Trianni](https://time.com/author/francesca-trianni/) and [Lily Rothman](https://time.com/author/lily-rothman/)

Nov 13, 2014 3:00 PM UTC

The story of how Dick Cavett got his start isn’t a secret: as recounted in the 1971 TIME cover story about the star, he was working at this magazine as a copy boy — a now-obsolete gofer gig — when he wrote a few jokes meant for Jack Paar, brought them across the street to bring to the _Tonight Show_ host, had them read on the show and eventually got hired as a writer. And the TIME-comedy links didn’t stop there. As Cavett tells it in his new book, _Brief Encounters_, he also used his access to the magazine’s files to track down entertainment icon Stan Laurel.

Much of _Brief Encounters_ is devoted to Cavett’s observations about how the world has changed — so, on the occasion of his book’s release, Cavett came back to visit the place where he got his start. And, he discovered, even when it comes to office space, time refuses to stand still.

**_Read the Dick Cavett cover story, here in the TIME Vault:_** [The Art of Show and Tell](http://time.com/vault/issue/1971-06-07/page/70/)


## Transcript

If you set your heart on the thing you most wanna do, and work really hard, you will achieve it. This is nonsense, ut's a dangerous thing to tell people, because hundreds of young women wanted to get into the theater and movies in the same way Catherine Hepburn did, but she's the only one of them that [ MUSIC ] The **** Cavett Show! Will you welcome, please, Mr. Marlon Brando. [ APPLAUSE ] He is the most famous man in the world, Muhammad Ali. Now that we're fu, through making fun of each others nationalities. [ LAUGH ] And other people's. You were saying? I don't think I'd be in show business if there hadn't been a Bob Hope.

I used to. Imitate you and watch you, when I was just a little kid. You talk like my children. [ LAUGH ] [ MUSIC ] Mifune was a copy boy right around here. Making $ 60 a week. If somebody had said, you're gonna be on the cover of this magazine someday, I would have had to laugh at them. [ MUSIC ] It was my very first job in, in New York. And it was fun, especially to work at night. Cuz the lights. The city was so thrilling for a boy from Nebraska, and I really felt like I had made it. My relatives at home were saying he's with Time Magazine. [ LAUGH ] He didn't say what I was working as. [ MUSIC ] A copy boy stood at the end of a corridor at a long copy desk.

And the copy boy was the one who ran the thing down that so and so had asked for. I used to work here you know. Did you really? Yeah I was a copy boy. I never knew I'd know him back then. I remember a guy wanting especially to deliver to a certain writer. wire, saying he had both barrels in his mouth. it was about Hemingway's suicide. [ MUSIC ] Well, this is the copy desk. What? They call this a copy desk? [ LAUGH ] It's totally misconceived. A copy desk is a kind of crappy table about ten feet long with gum sticking on it and cigarette burns and nothing fun. No place to sit down and certainly no computer screens in the late 50s.

The elevators are nicer than they were too. Why do they wait til you leave to improve everything? Had I not been a copy boy, you and I wouldn't be sitting here. Now, there are people who say that fate would've sent you another way or. Or you're destined to make it or whatever. Nobody knows. [ MUSIC ]

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