--- title: Why Marvel's Female Thor Makes Total Sense description: The mighty Thor, that symbol of masculinity, aggression, violence and war, is going to be a woman. And it makes total sense. canonical: https://time.com/2987940/thor-female/ author: Alex Fitzpatrick article:opinion: false article:content_tier: free article:published_time: 2014-07-15T18:28:50.000Z article:modified_time: 2026-08-04T07:48:42.313Z og:title: Why Marvel's Female Thor Makes Total Sense og:description: The mighty Thor, that symbol of masculinity, aggression, violence and war, is going to be a woman. And it makes total sense. og:url: https://time.com/2987940/thor-female/ og:site_name: TIME og:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blte0421048c513d8cf/69869bcd06f2c1514132fe78/thor-001_cover.jpeg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 og:image:width: 1375 og:image:height: 773 og:image:alt: THOR 001_cover og:type: article twitter:card: summary_large_image twitter:title: Why Marvel's Female Thor Makes Total Sense twitter:description: The mighty Thor, that symbol of masculinity, aggression, violence and war, is going to be a woman. And it makes total sense. twitter:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blte0421048c513d8cf/69869bcd06f2c1514132fe78/thor-001_cover.jpeg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 video:duration: 02:55 video:published: 2013-11-05 section: entertainment topics: Marvel Cinematic Universe, superhero films, post-credits scenes, Phase One, Phase Two, The Avengers, box office, X-Men film rights, film franchises genre: explainer, film commentary tones: playful, informative, conversational, wry emotions: excitement (medium), amusement (medium), curiosity (medium) sentiment: positive audience: Marvel fans, moviegoers, superhero film enthusiasts, casual viewers planning to watch Thor: The Dark World people: Robert Downey Jr., Samuel L. 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Learn how Marvel has crafted the progression of its superheroes in film._ Description, summary, key points, chapters, key quotes, questions and transcript, where present, were produced automatically from the video or its captions and were not reviewed. ## Summary The video introduces the Marvel Cinematic Universe ahead of Thor: The Dark World, explaining how the films interconnect through post-credits scenes. It traces the path from Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk through Iron Man 2 and Captain America: The First Avenger to The Avengers. It closes by noting that X-Men films are made by 20th Century Fox rather than Marvel Studios, so those characters are not part of the shared universe. ## Key points - Robert Downey Jr. first donned the Iron Man suit in 2008, setting in motion Phase One of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. (00:41) - Samuel L. Jackson, as Nick Fury, appears in a post-credits scene and talks about the Avenger Initiative. (00:54) - Mark Ruffalo replaced Edward Norton as the Hulk after creative differences between Norton and the production team. (01:23) - Iron Man 2 gave a sneak peek of Thor, which opened in theaters in 2011. (01:32) - Captain America: The First Avenger ended with a trailer for The Avengers. (01:47) - The Avengers smashed box office records in 2012, earning over $200 million its opening weekend. (02:04) - Iron Man 3 and Thor: The Dark World mark the official entry into Phase Two of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. (02:21) - The X-Men movies are administered by 20th Century Fox, not Marvel Studios, so Wolverine won't appear alongside Iron Man soon. (02:44) ## Chapters - [00:00 to 00:26] Why understanding the wider universe matters. The narrator argues that viewers should understand the wider Marvel Cinematic Universe before watching Thor: The Dark World. - [00:26 to 01:04] Iron Man and the post-credits setup. The video explains how Iron Man began Phase One and how Nick Fury's post-credits scene hinted at the Avengers. - [01:04 to 01:47] Hulk, Thor and Captain America connections. The Incredible Hulk recast, Iron Man 2's Thor tease, and Captain America's trailer for The Avengers are covered. - [01:47 to 02:25] The Avengers and Phase Two. The Avengers' box office success is linked to the franchise's post-credits strategy, leading into Phase Two with Iron Man 3 and Thor: The Dark World. - [02:25 to 02:55] X-Men are outside the universe. The video notes that X-Men films belong to 20th Century Fox, so those characters will not join Marvel Studios' films soon. ## Key quotes - [00:07] narrator: "if you want the full experience, you need to understand the wider Marvel Cinematic Universe." - [01:04] Nick Fury: "I'm here to talk to you about the Avenger Initiative." - [02:04] narrator: "All those post- credits scenes were meant to guide you to The Avengers" - [02:44] narrator: "those X- Men movies are administered not by Marvel Studios, but by 20th Century Fox." ## Questions this video answers - How did the Marvel Cinematic Universe progress from Iron Man to The Avengers? [00:41] - Why did Mark Ruffalo replace Edward Norton as the Hulk? [01:23] - What role did post-credits scenes play in building toward The Avengers? [02:04] - Where do the X-Men fit into the Marvel Cinematic Universe? [02:38] - When did Phase Two of the Marvel Cinematic Universe begin? [02:21] ## Content suitability - violence [00:10-00:16]: Brief reference to explosions and action in superhero films.  by [Alex Fitzpatrick](https://time.com/author/alex-fitzpatrick/)  ## Alex Fitzpatrick Jul 15, 2014 6:28 PM UTC  Thor concept art on July 15, 2014. Thor concept art on July 15, 2014. Marvel Comics  by [Alex Fitzpatrick](https://time.com/author/alex-fitzpatrick/)  ## Alex Fitzpatrick Jul 15, 2014 6:28 PM UTC The mighty Thor, that symbol of masculinity, aggression, violence and war, is going to be a woman. And it makes total sense. Marvel [announced](http://time.com/2987574/thor-will-now-officially-be-a-woman-in-marvel-comics/) the upcoming female incarnation of the character on _The View_ Tuesday morning. The reaction was swift and, in many cases, far too negative. “I love women who kick add but Thor’s a dude,” \[sic\] wrote one Twitter user. “Marvel comics being stupid,” announced another. And then there’s this, from a Marvel editor: > [](https://twitter.com/AgentM/status/489108270670286848) Here’s the deal: Marvel Comics has long borrowed Norse mythology for many of its beloved characters and plots. That’s free intellectual property, after all. But the comics are only _inspired_ by Norse mythology, and they’ve almost never followed the stories line-for-line (and even if they did, mythology suffers from a massive case of The Telephone Game, with lots of different tellings evolving over the years). Thor, in the Marvel Universe, isn’t just a character: He’s also an intangible idea. And Thor’s power, which most notably includes the ability to summon up lightning to layeth the smacketh-downeth upon his foes, isn’t really embedded inside _him,_ per se. It’s in his hammer, Mjolnir — to mix comic book universe metaphors, he’s more like Green Lantern, who derives his power from a ring that’s charged by a lantern that’s charged by a planet. That wasn’t always the case. Thor’s power used to be embedded in Thor directly. But when Thor’s father, Odin (also the king of Thor’s realm, Asgard), wanted to punish Thor for violating his direct commands, Odin stripped Thor of his powers and enshrined them instead in Mjolnir. Here’s the spell Odin put on the hammer to do so: --- > “” --- Translation: To get Thor’s power, you have to be deemed worthy of it by successfully picking up the hammer. In most Marvel Thor origin stories, eventually Thor redeems himself, reclaims his hammer (without first knowing why he couldn’t pick it up any longer) and then becomes the “real” Thor again, ready to return to his lightning-summoning, hammer-slinging self. But Thor isn’t the only person who’s lifted the hammer: Captain America, the Hulk (eventually!) and Superman (crossover!) were deemed worthy and got Thor’s power. Who does the deeming is something of a mystery, but I’ve long thought that Mjolnir itself is sentient and the hammer itself decides who’s worthy of it. And there’s the rub: What will probably happen in the Marvel comic book that introduces the new female Thor is that the male Thor we’ve all known for decades will either bite the bullet or do something to piss off the hammer. Either option would mean Thor couldn’t be Thor any longer, and some female character will come along — whether Asgardian or otherwise — try to pick up the hammer, succeed, and effectively become a female Thor. That Odin’s spell specifically says “he” doesn’t really matter: Storm and Wonder Woman (another crossover!) have both been deemed worthy, signaling Mjolnir has perhaps developed a less strict constructionist ideology about itself than Odin ever had. Of course, a female Thor won’t really address another problem facing the comic book world: The lack of original, well-advertised female superheroes, particularly at the movies. None of the upcoming DC or Marvel films, for example, feature a woman — no Wonder Woman from DC, no Black Widow flick from Marvel. The best we’ve gotten so far are Elektra and Catwoman, both total flops. Both companies will need more than a female version of a top character to fix that issue. ## Transcript [00:00] >>I think you [00:04] missed a column. [00:06] >>Shut up! [00:07] >>Before you rush out to see Thor: The Dark World, [00:10] it's important to know what you're getting into. Sure, [00:13] you can zone out to 90 minutes of explosions and [00:16] predictable dialogue, but if you want the full [00:19] experience, you need to understand the wider Marvel [00:22] Cinematic Universe. [00:26] >>Not a word. [00:28] >>Action. [00:28] >>While marvel and cinema can't, of course, replicate [00:31] the robustness of over half a century of the comic [00:34] books, it does do its best to interweave the stories of [00:37] some of its most recognizable characters. [00:41] >>Back in 2008, Robert Downey Jr. first donned to [00:45] the Iron Man's suit, setting in motion Phase One. In [00:50] the post- credits scene-- You did stay for the [00:54] post- credits scene, didn't you? Samuel L. Jackson [00:57] hints at a future where heroes coalesce. [00:59] >>Who the hell are you? [01:02] >>Nick Fury, Director of S. H. I. E. L. D. [01:04] >>Oh. [01:04] >>I'm here to talk to you about [01:08] the Avenger Initiative. [01:13] >>Next, Edward Norton transformed himself into The [01:15] Incredible Hulk, a reboot of the 2004 film Hulk [01:19] directed by Ang Lee. After some creative differences [01:23] between Norton and the production team, the [01:25] franchise found a more agreeable Hulk in Mark [01:28] Ruffalo. Iron [01:32] Man 2 released in 2010 gave a sneak peek to the [01:36] coming of Thor which would open in theaters in 2011. [01:39] >>Sir, [01:41] we [01:43] found [01:45] it. [01:47] >>Two months later, Marvel Studios released Captain [01:50] America: The First Avenger, ending with a trailer for [01:53] The Avengers, Phase One's [ unk ]. Are [01:58] you sensing the theme here? All those post- credits [02:01] scenes were meant to guide you to The Avengers [02:04] which smashed the box office records in 2012, [02:07] earning over $ 200 million its opening weekend. All [02:10] those superheroes- fighting evil and each other really [02:14] raked in the profits for Marvel. With the release [02:18] of Iron Man 3 this past summer and Thor: The Dark [02:21] World out this month, we have officially entered Phase [02:25] Two of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, set to culminate [02:28] in, you guessed it, another Avengers movie tentatively [02:31] scheduled for a May 2015 release. " Wait [02:38] a minute ," you say, " what about the X- Men ?" Will [02:41] Professor X or Mystique ever enter the fray? Sadly, [02:44] those X- Men movies are administered not by Marvel [02:47] Studios, but by 20th Century Fox. 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