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# Louie, the Fat Girl and the Psychology of Mate Value

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## Bijan Stephen


May 18, 2014 8:29 PM UTC

by 

[Bijan Stephen](https://time.com/author/bijan-stephen/)


## Bijan Stephen


May 18, 2014 8:29 PM UTC

All things considered, it seems like we’ve entered a [new golden age of television](http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/10/business/media/fenced-in-by-televisions-excess-of-excellence.html): our break-room conversations revolve around the intricacies of _Mad Men_ and _Game of Thrones_, or the misadventures of [Ilana and Abbi](http://www.broadcitytheshow.com/) and the _Workaholics_ dudes. What’s most interesting, though, are what these shows say. There’s a recent episode of _Louie_ — the critically acclaimed comedy written and directed by Louis C.K. — that offers a blistering social critique of how we treat fat women in the dating arena. Over at the [A.V. Club](www.avclub.com/article/fat-woman-talking-louie-starts-necessary-conversat-204504?utm%5Fmedium=RSS&utm%5Fcampaign=feeds), Libby Hill sums it up best:

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Like I said: blistering critique. Psychologists would say that Vanessa’s rejection is due to her “mate value,” which, in this case, refers to her extrinsic attractiveness; simply put, it’s harder to find dating success as a person who’s not conventionally attractive.


All that said, a [new paper](http://static.squarespace.com/static/504114b1e4b0b97fe5a520af/t/536558a7e4b00d4ffa0c60a0/1399150759190/EastwickHunt2014JPSP.pdf) published in the _Journal of Personality and Social Psychology_ investigates mate value and its relation to romantic success — and, as the data show, the problem of romantic pairing is more complicated (and less bleak) than it first seems.

The researchers — Paul Eastwick, a professor at the University of Texas at Austin, and the university’s graduate student Lucy Hunt — show that there’s another measure that’s ultimately more important than the first impression, a factor they term “uniqueness.” In the [New York](http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/18/opinion/sunday/so-youre-not-desirable.html?%5Fr=0)[ _Times_](http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/18/opinion/sunday/so-youre-not-desirable.html?%5Fr=0), they write “\[uniqueness\] is the degree to which someone rates a specific person as lower or higher than the person’s consensus value.” In other words: as you get to know someone, you become less able to determine someone’s “objective” mate value — i.e., society’s collective valuing of their desirable qualities, based on an initial impression. The researchers give an example of a hypothetical man named Neil. “\[E\]ven if Neil is a 6 on average, certain women may vary in their impressions of him,” they write. “Amanda fails to be charmed by his obscure literary references and thinks he is a 3\. Yet Eileen thinks he is a 9; she finds his allusions captivating.”


I’m sure everyone — Louie included — can relate to this: Who hasn’t found themselves unexpectedly wooed as they get to know a new friend? I certainly have. Though it might initially be easier for societally desirable people to find romantic attachments, the game changes over time. “As people get to know each other, decreasing consensus and increasing uniqueness give everyone a fighting chance,” Hunt and Eastwick conclude, hearteningly.

As for Louie and Vanessa, the episode ends with a shot of them walking off into the distance, hand in hand.

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